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Lost ignition key - how to remove ignition lock cylinder? #2588599
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Remove the door lock and have a key made from it or is there an easier method ?

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The door lock & ignition cylinders have a key code on them, anyone with the proper key cutter & that code can make a new key.

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Also, a good locksmith can cut a key without a code. There are only so many "teeth combinations" that are possible & it's not nearly as many as you'd think. I don't fully understand this, but a buddy of mine is a locksmith & only took about 10-15 min. to cut me a new set of keys.


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For 1969 up there are 3,360 possible combinations for ignition & trunk keys in my book - if I counted right.

Re: Lost ignition key - how to remove ignition lock cylinder? [Re: A727Tflite] #2588902
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Thanks, didn’t know the locks had codes on them.

I would then assume the trunk lock has a code too.

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Here is one example from a '70 ignition cylinder I have here;

1970 ignition key code w.jpg
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Originally Posted By Transman
Thanks, didn’t know the locks had codes on them.

I would then assume the trunk lock has a code too.


true, but the trunk key (ES) is different from the ignition/doors (EP)

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Yes, I know the trunk key is different, that’s why I asked if the trunk lock had a code as well.

Now I have to just pull the door panel and get to work. The trunk luckily is open so I don’t have to crawl through the back seat.

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Would it be possible to key trunk same as the door?

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Partsmix sells complete kits for that so you can drop down to one key per car

www.partsmix.com

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Thx, not interested in buying and changing whole set, but this tells me it's possible.

Re: Lost ignition key - how to remove ignition lock cylinder? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2589119
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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
For 1969 up there are 3,360 possible combinations for ignition & trunk keys in my book - if I counted right.

You know, that's what I always thought, but my buddy told me differently. Maybe I didn't understand exactly what he was telling me, but he didn't seem to have too much trouble.

He had a tool that kinda-sorta looked like a pair of sideways hedge shears...kinda-sorta. He put a blank key in it horizontally & squeezed the handle to cut the teeth. He cut, tried key, cut, tried key and threw away the first key after about 3 cuts and repeated with a new key. By the 3rd blank key he had it. I was amazed. This was on a "brand-X" (Oldsmobile...'78 I believe)


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Those sheers were a key cutter.

I do not have the Olds book, just the Mopar book.

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I have the same cutter and book. I have a pin set as well to change the cly for a new key. There are five possible pin lengths for each of the five positions on the key. I’ve seen good locksmiths have a soft key that marks easy so they know where to cut for a longer pin. I guess it could be done but the number on the cly and the stuff I have, makes it easier.







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