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Stupid crazy gas mileage #61609
05/22/08 01:20 PM
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http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/SaveonaCar/Get50MpgInYourOwnCar.aspx?

Anyone have any insight as to how well this works with our cars?

Re: Stupid crazy gas mileage [Re: jeebis44] #61610
05/22/08 01:34 PM
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You go right ahead and try it, and report back with your results.

Just don't be riding my butt trying to get another MPG out of your car at my expense...

Hyper-milers are nut-jobs!

Re: Stupid crazy gas mileage [Re: jeebis44] #61611
05/22/08 01:57 PM
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Just doing the simple stuff will get you an easy 4-5 miles a gallon. Beyond that gets a little harder to do.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Stupid crazy gas mileage [Re: jeebis44] #61612
05/22/08 03:34 PM
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It ought to work with any car, and the worse the mileage, the larger the percentage increase even a small increase would be. I'm just now trying some of the tactics with my 2008 Honda Fit, but my primary use for the car is city commuting, so there's not much benefit to be had. Still, EPA says it's rated at 28mpg city, and I'm pretty regularly exceeding that by 1-2mpg. On a 5 mile commute where half the trip is warming up and half the time is creeping along or sitting still, it's not bad. On the highway, I've gotten nearly 40mpg just by setting the cruise control on the speed limit (70mph), and keeping tire pressures at 38psi. No magic there, just common sense. The little 1.5L engine has a VTEC feature that activates at 3500rpm, and 70mph is about 3200, and that was the largest single benefit I saw. Tire pressure is well below the max, but high enough to help protect the small-ish tires.

Aerodynamics is something that can benefit any car, especially our old Mopar bricks. It's hard to make my Valiant any slicker than it is, so drafting a semi or other large box is about the only way to reduce aero drag. And you don't have to be on the bumper of the box to get the benefit, just somewhere in the wake. The more common version of drafting is to sit about 1 second back, and before anyone says that's dangerous, 1 second = 88 feet @ 60mph. That's at least 5 car lengths in my Valiant, and nearly 7 Fit-lengths. Incorporating 1-sec drafting, I know of at least 2 Fit owners who have pulled over 55mpg from cars identical to mine. My question is, how do they keep some fool from pulling in to that space? Around here, if you're more than a couple car lengths back, some idiot is going to take that space as they try to blast down the road.

Nutshell, drive more smoothly, keep your tires inflated, and take advantage of natural aerodynamics, and you should see noticible improvements.

Clair

Re: Stupid crazy gas mileage [Re: jeebis44] #61613
05/22/08 03:40 PM
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My ride 22+ mile ride into work (from start-up to shut down):
(and the cpu actually reads ~ 1% low against calculated two tank average )

4444703-85.7mpgwork.jpg (86 downloads)

1979 Dodge Lil' Red Express - 360 rwhp, 13.2 @ 103mph
1968 Coronet: 318, 2.76, 15.2 @ 92mph! (SOLD)
1976 Valiant: 360, 3.90, 12.90 @ 106 (SOLD)
1989 Shelby CSX #500/500
Re: Stupid crazy gas mileage [Re: Prince_Valiant] #61614
05/22/08 06:48 PM
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Drafting semis does work, however here they pour gravel on the roads in winter, not salt, so if you draft a semi, you get a free sandblasting job on the front of your car. So I don't draft the semis. However I did try it once in my 87 daytona. The onboard mileage computer has an instantaneous MPG display and IIRC getting in behind a semi bumped it up by nearly 10mpgs.

Re: Stupid crazy gas mileage [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #61615
05/23/08 05:10 AM
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There are so many rocks on the road here, you're begging for a cracked windshield or chipped paint if you stay behind a semi for too long. I've got a chip AND dent in the hood of my Fit just from normal driving, so I won't be hanging out behind semis any time soon.

The onboard computer on the old Daytonas was a really nice feature. I regularly used that on my trips to keep up with the mileage I was getting. That should come on every car, IMHO.

Clair







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