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Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998673
05/28/11 12:56 AM 05/28/11 12:56 AM
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....on the WP housing Q ..
Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998674
06/11/11 07:34 PM 06/11/11 07:34 PM
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Doing this project tonite ...along with some other stuff to prep for the trip.

In addition to what I asked .... can you get the pulley off the pump by uNconnecting the pass side motor-mount?
Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998675
06/11/11 09:28 PM 06/11/11 09:28 PM
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After you get the belt off and the coolant drained, remove the pulley bolts and leave the pulley in there. Leave the mount in there. Then remove the water pump bolts. Then use a large pry bar and pry the engine over to the left to have adequate room to remove both at the same time. You'll be done in no time. As long as you don't break off any bolts

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Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: Todd] #998676
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NOT KNOWING bolt sizes etc ... I have coasted along. Right now I am stopped at the WP bolt at 10 oclock. I am going to have to modify a box wrench to get at that. The other WP bolts so far were EZ... BUT a PITA. I dropped the pass side mount as far as it would go .... 1.5 inches ... that exposed the pulley and WP bolts better.

What a LOUSY @$$ design this is ..... oleHAM must have had his hand in this.

Pry Bar ? .... move the motor to the left(rear) ? .... NOT to the front? BTW Todd ... just in case someone else is reading this ... how do you handle a broken bolt?
Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998677
06/12/11 12:43 AM 06/12/11 12:43 AM
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Quote:


NOT KNOWING bolt sizes etc ... I have coasted along. Right now I am stopped at the WP bolt at 10 oclock. I am going to have to modify a box wrench to get at that. The other WP bolts so far were EZ... BUT a PITA. I dropped the pass side mount as far as it would go .... 1.5 inches ... that exposed the pulley and WP bolts better.

What a LOUSY @$$ design this is ..... oleHAM must have had his hand in this.

No need to take the mount off.

If you pry the engine to the left (drivers side) the water pump/pulley assembly will have enough room to come out.
To get out the broken bolt , drill and easy out if it's flush. Alot of times just the head breaks off and has enough left to get some vise grips on with a little heat on the housing.

Pry Bar ? .... move the motor to the left(rear) ? .... NOT to the front? BTW Todd ... just in case someone else is reading this ... how do you handle a broken bolt?


Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: Todd] #998678
06/12/11 01:01 AM 06/12/11 01:01 AM
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What was that all about Todd .... ??

There HAS TO BE an EZier way to R&R that 10 oclock bolt ... it is almost out ... but all I can turn it is maybe 1/4/1/8 turn at-the-best......

I am working with a "lame" left hand ... but still ....

Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998679
06/12/11 01:06 AM 06/12/11 01:06 AM
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Sorry! I replied to the last on my iPod.


I usually use a 10mm gear wrench and a 1/4" ratchet.
Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: Todd] #998680
06/12/11 01:15 AM 06/12/11 01:15 AM
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.....yeah that's the ticket ... who makes a FINE-tooth 10mm gear wrench ?

I have been using a 1/4 ratchet on the rest. How many of these have you done? ... I would think it would be EZier on a lift. I am doing this on a concrete floor. A 3 ton jack-stand ... a floor jack and TWO bottle jacks ...

One bottle jack uNder the oil pan and the other tweaking the tensioner ...

Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998681
06/12/11 02:09 AM 06/12/11 02:09 AM
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I've always done them on a lift. I'm guess I'm spoiled. Done quite a few over the years. While your under there take a peek at the tube going to the lower radiator hose. They like to pin holes in them.
Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: Todd] #998682
06/12/11 03:42 AM 06/12/11 03:42 AM
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FINALLY got it out and prepped everything for the install. If I had RTVed the O-ring on the WP earlier I would have stayed up and finished it.

Oh ....I wire-brushed the bolts and put a dab of anti-seize on them and ran them in ...and then out ... SHOULD go together much EZier ....

That lower tube ? ... looks almost new

Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998683
06/12/11 09:34 AM 06/12/11 09:34 AM
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Thats good about the lower tube. They like to rust out right around the attachment tab.

Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: Todd] #998684
06/12/11 07:35 PM 06/12/11 07:35 PM
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I looked at that tube better ..... that tab area could be a concern. I might pop-it-off and do a REpaint with some good engine enamel.

That 10 oclock bolt ....

I crank-it-in 20 or so times(1/8 of a turn) and then I have to take a break(my arm cramps-up) .... this really ticks me off ...

Re: 3.3 water pump ? [Re: dOc !] #998685
06/15/11 01:15 AM 06/15/11 01:15 AM
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JUSTa followup .... for some that might have been following this ....

all is well .... I cut a 10mm box wrench down to about 3.5" long and I could get it to swing about 2/3 of a turn ...

But a ratchet wrench would have worked better..... and BTW .... if you are located in the midwest ....near a Meijer store .. they have a SLICK set of these wrenches ON SALE this week. 10 piece set - 53 beans.

And these are the NICE ONES .... I think 70 clicks on a 360. Does anyone remember the KD ones ... that were maybe 12 or so ...for a 360 ? ..

Talked to a Bud of mine who is a mechanic who is a recent Mopar convert .... his SNAPon set he thinks was almost 200$.

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