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Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: Viol8r] #995767
05/20/11 10:47 AM
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Put some drive time on it while watching the computer and hold a steady speed at each rpm, and it will "learn" the map. Once its close, if it still cogs a little, go into the set-up and increase the squirter shot till it accels real good...



'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: Viol8r] #995768
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I had the same clearance issues on my Charger with the XFI setup. I also utilized the Spectre plenum but modified it quite extensively to fit under the hood, over the fuel rails and around the throttle linkage. Here's some pictures of the before and after.

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Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995769
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after fabrication and painting

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Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995770
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Installed

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Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995771
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Looks GREAT!

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: Mopar_Rich] #995772
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Thanks Rich. Now just gotta figure out where to put 8 coil packs and a bunch more wire!!!

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995773
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my old boss was the one who did your carbon fiber coating.

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: chrisf] #995774
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That would be Trevor, correct?

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995775
05/21/11 12:31 AM
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I wish mine worked . The guy installing it has had it for 3 weeks. The car starts perfectly but once put into a Reverse or Drive it dies. I think he posted about it on here earlier this week.

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: Slipknot440] #995776
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Check your timing, specifically the mechanical advance. The EZ-EFI does not control timing and with some of the light advance springs installed in performance engines, the weights are on the verge of opening at idle. The EZ computer sets the idle speed in neutral but the advance weights have advanced the timing a bit so the idle speed is up. As soon as you drop it in gear the motor lugs down a bit, the weights drop in and timing retards and the idle drops to a point where it stalls. This happens with carbs as well but with the EZ-EFI it is very touchy. Get the distributor recurved so that there is no advance before around 200-300 RPM above your idle speed in neutral.

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995777
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Very nice custom plenum. I have the same Spectre plenum on the car now and made it work.

I do not see any heater hoses?

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: PC-CHARGER] #995778
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Check your timing, specifically the mechanical advance. The EZ-EFI does not control timing and with some of the light advance springs installed in performance engines, the weights are on the verge of opening at idle. The EZ computer sets the idle speed in neutral but the advance weights have advanced the timing a bit so the idle speed is up. As soon as you drop it in gear the motor lugs down a bit, the weights drop in and timing retards and the idle drops to a point where it stalls. This happens with carbs as well but with the EZ-EFI it is very touchy. Get the distributor recurved so that there is no advance before around 200-300 RPM above your idle speed in neutral.



Using one of the lightweight springs and the lightest of the stock springs has worked well for me to fix this problem.

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: Viol8r] #995779
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Haven't decided if I want to put the hoses on or not yet. Heater box is in place with a new heater core but still undecided. I like what you've done for heater hoses so maybe I'll try something like that.

Re: EZ-EFI on my 440 [Re: Viol8r] #995780
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it looks great.did you have any clearance issues with the hood?what kind air cleaner are you using?




Yes, the hood clearance takes some thought. You can't use a normal drop base air cleaner as it hits the fuel rails. So we ordered a Spectre aluminum plenum box and it only takes up 2" of space. Has (2) 4" inlets on each side with 4" tubes. I currently can't get the tubes to fit so we are just going to run the plentum box with fine pre-filter foam covering the openings. I will post pics on that soon and it should work fine.

Someday when I get some time the solution maybe using oval tubing to get the hood clearance.

This is in a '68 Charger with an RPM intake, so results may very with different combos......bottom line is can't use drop bases with the EZ-EFI.




I ran a TB years ago (projection) and it was shorter than the eddy carb that it replaced.
just thinkin out loud if your TB was shorter than a carb like mine was and you ran a holley street dominator, maybe a 68 unsilenced or other round filter would fit under a stock hood

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