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Bring your Alternator Pictures! #993195
05/15/11 09:35 PM
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I have a "leaning in" 'bent' Alternator, you can see its out of line with flywheel.. this car had a A/c in it, but was ripped out, my question is , what hardware is used and what am I missing to stiffen this up? you can see from pic Im using a 3 hole triangle plate, with top hole for A/c un used. and a long shank and shalf through the front of alternator, with nothing holding the front causeing the lean, is this how the other Challengers are, everyone's lean?


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993196
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The triangle bracket is in the wrong place. It is supposed to attach to the two water pump bolts and the unused hole in your pic attached at the front of the alternator.
Here is a pic the (not correct it is a mock up of a bracket for a GM alternator) but gives an idea of how the bracket should be attached to the water pump. On your car it will line up with one of the holes at the top of the head, not the lower hole shown here.


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: finadk] #993197
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Hmm then where does the slide bracket to adjust belt at the bottom of the alternator go.. yours don't show


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: finadk] #993198
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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: bordin34] #993199
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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993201
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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993202
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That triangular bracket needs to be on the FRONT of the alternator. The hole that is currently open is for the long bolt that goes through the alternator. the other two holes mount on the water pump bolts (one of them is doubled with the adjustment bracket).

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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: roadhazard] #993203
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Great response guys thanks for the help, extra thanks to you gtx6970, I see now that I got it all messed up, and am missing the smaller spacer, to fix this.Just got to find one or at least how long they are.

Thanks again all


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993204
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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993206
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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Snoopy] #993207
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I actually have a 3 holes on the right and one on the left, with my bracket, and no where does it hook up with the front of it to the water pump, holes don't match up, I ordered the 3 hole bracket,Hopeing it fits, wish I could still see the top bracket hooked up better and close up, where does the small spacer go, and does that looong bolt go in the single hole of triangle bracket then through the alternator then into the head or just ends with a nut, also the bottom bracket I have is shaped like a Y 2 on the engine and one slide (tight) adjuster to the alternator, not a single peice
Any more help, Im confused


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993208
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I have a "leaning in" 'bent' Alternator, you can see its out of line with flywheel.. this car had a A/c in it, but was ripped out, my question is , what hardware is used and what am I missing to stiffen this up? you can see from pic Im using a 3 hole triangle plate, with top hole for A/c un used. and a long shank and shalf through the front of alternator, with nothing holding the front causeing the lean, is this how the other Challengers are, everyone's lean?




what I see is you have the alt/A/C brracket from the back of the a/c comp that has the alt pivot hole

you will need to use the front a/c comp bracket that has the front pivot hole and goes across the top front of the water pump to capture the top middle wp bolt behind it...a/c brackets with out comp mounted up in stock locations

this will give the correct spaceing on the alt pivot bolt and keep it in the stock location

i cant tell if you have the a/c or non a/c pulleys if so you need the non a/c alt brackets like in the explode pic of them that was posted

the grooves look off as you only have 1 belt on the front alt groove of the double groove alt

with the a/c bracket the slide adjuster arm will bolt on the lower wp bolt and swing up to alt

with the non a/c alt brackets the swing arm bolts on the lower wp bolt along with the tri angle piece

alt bracket depends on pulleys used

removeing the a/c comp and use just the brackets is fine with the a/c pullys

you can also just remove the support rib on the neck of the wp,file smooth and run 2 short belts right off the crank to alt and leave the a/c comp and brackets in place as well.


Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993209
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I have a "leaning in" 'bent' Alternator, you can see its out of line with flywheel.. this car had a A/c in it, but was ripped out, my question is , what hardware is used and what am I missing to stiffen this up? you can see from pic Im using a 3 hole triangle plate, with top hole for A/c un used. and a long shank and shalf through the front of alternator, with nothing holding the front causeing the lean, is this how the other Challengers are, everyone's lean?




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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993210
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Just so it's clear, I made a picture

Move the bracket to the front, and line up the holes as colored:

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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993211
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ok looking at the pic some more..


i think you have the a/c pulleys

you have the 1 alt belt straight down to the crank and the ps and wp run on a belt

you just need the front alt-a/c bracket to support the alt pivot bolt

that will line the belt up straight

look at the belt you have on the front groove of alt to the crank...see the rib on the neck of the wp that wont let you run another belt in the rear groove from alt to crank

thats the piece you want to remove and file flat and run 2 belts on the alt

other option is get non a/c pullys and alt brackets(like in all the pics posted) with correct belts and a single groove alt pully

the other thing to remember with the pully ratio is the a/c wp use the smaller pully and 6 vane wp

the non a/c pulleys use a larger pully and 8 vane pumps

not good to mix match the pully ratio and wp vane count either on high rpm engines,it can cavitate at the wp vanes.

Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993212
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Here is a decent picture showing how it should be. I did a simple image search on Google.


Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993213
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the 3 hole y lower alt bracket is a a/c lower alt bracket

it will be used with the rest of the a/c brackets

the othe flat swing arm is for non a/c set up

cant strees it enuff..dont mix match the stock a/c or non a/c brackets and pullys

you just need that 1 a/c front bracket and 1 more belt for the alt and crank to be set up good to go

every one is correct showing you the non a/c brackets/pullys and the way it mounts...but you have 2 of the 3 a/c brackets and they are not the same and wont fit any other way.

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