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Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: Neil] #98943 08/03/08 05:06 PM 08/03/08 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	That's what I was thinking, I noticed the lack of a freeze plug on the ends of the heads and figured they were something different. The early iron W2's have the freeze plugs.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #98944 08/03/08 07:08 PM 08/03/08 07:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	So, anyone know if a 1969 ramcharger air cleaner will fit on an edelbrock 650 carb? 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98945 08/03/08 07:16 PM 08/03/08 07:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,485 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,485 Eagle, Idaho	I once had the 440 oval air cleaner and I could have swore that I test fitted it on the spare 625 afb I have before I sold it. I don't recall a problem, but it was a long time ago.... I have the carb(s) so if somebody wants to supply the air cleaner hole diameter I can tell if it will work or not.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: Neil] #98946 08/03/08 07:40 PM 08/03/08 07:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	That would be excellent, Neil. Thanks to whoever comes up with that diameter! 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98947 08/03/08 07:42 PM 08/03/08 07:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: So, anyone know if a 1969 ramcharger air cleaner will fit on an edelbrock 650 carb? yes it will

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: JohnRR] #98948 08/03/08 07:55 PM 08/03/08 07:55 PM
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ukieone member U Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 81 mo. usa	yep,have one on the r/t now. looking for an 800.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: ukieone] #98949 08/04/08 11:03 AM 08/04/08 11:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	The AVS is a very good carb and I'd have it rebuilt. The carb number is usually stamped into the edge of the passengers side front foot. To clarify something about the various makers of the carbs, Carter went out of business. Edelbrock bought the RIGHTS and probably the patterns to make the carb with their name on it, their carb is built by Weber. Federal-Mogul got I believe the whole Carter empire and made the AFBs for a few years, then quit production. So it was F-M that killed the Carter AFB. R.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98950 08/04/08 11:53 AM 08/04/08 11:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI patrick I Live Here
patrick I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI	Quote: So, anyone know if a 1969 ramcharger air cleaner will fit on an edelbrock 650 carb? in the mid 60's (65? 66?) the carter 4bbls went from a smaller top diameter to the common 5 1/4" top diameter 1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod SOLD!* 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: patrick] #98951 08/04/08 11:56 AM 08/04/08 11:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: So, anyone know if a 1969 ramcharger air cleaner will fit on an edelbrock 650 carb? in the mid 60's (65? 66?) the carter 4bbls went from a smaller top diameter to the common 5 1/4" top diameter as far as i can tell that didn't change till 68 . that aside, it sounds like he has the air cleaner already on it and he is calling it the wrong carb

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: JohnRR] #98952 08/04/08 12:33 PM 08/04/08 12:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	OK, I ordered the Edelbrock carb from my local parts place. I can pick it up this evening. Earlier today, I talked to Summit's tech people and they said the top diameter is 5-1/8". Will this still work with the stock air cleaner? 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98953 08/04/08 12:52 PM 08/04/08 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: OK, I ordered the Edelbrock carb from my local parts place. I can pick it up this evening. Earlier today, I talked to Summit's tech people and they said the top diameter is 5-1/8". Will this still work with the stock air cleaner? did you miss the part in this thread were it was said .... YES IT WILL FIT ???? the only thing you may have to do is bend up the 2 small locatiing tabs at the rear of the carb opening on the air cleaner base , stock carbs have notches to orient the air cleaner and keep it from turning .

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: JohnRR] #98954 08/04/08 12:56 PM 08/04/08 12:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	yeah, john, but will it fit??? 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98955 08/04/08 12:56 PM 08/04/08 12:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	i totally crack myself up 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98956 08/04/08 03:07 PM 08/04/08 03:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	One more question! Wiull this carb fit on a stock intake manifold, without using any special adapters? 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: new bee] #98957 08/04/08 03:17 PM 08/04/08 03:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct A AdamR master
AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Quote: One more question! Wiull this carb fit on a stock intake manifold, without using any special adapters? yes.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: AdamR] #98958 08/04/08 05:17 PM 08/04/08 05:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,485 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,485 Eagle, Idaho	You may need the chrysler kickdown adapter/throttle linkage part that they sell seperately. When I bought my 800 avs in the picture I posted earlier I had to go back and pick up the adaptor thingy that bolts onto the existing linkage. Oh, and don't try taking the carb from the box and bolting it right on the car. I have put 5 or 6 of them on and from my experience they are just thrown together. You MUST take the lid off and check the float drop in both directions and make sure the jets are tight. Turn the two air mixture screws all the way in and then back them out 2-1/2 - 3-1/2 turns. This will get it close enough that it should run and you can fine tune it with a vacume guage later. Also if you bought the electric choke model there is a fast idle screw hidden way down on the linkage. The last carb I put on this screw was way out of adjustment and when I went to start the engine the rpm went sky high instantly. Scared the crap out of me and not good on the engine.

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: Neil] #98959 08/04/08 05:32 PM 08/04/08 05:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: Oh, and don't try taking the carb from the box and bolting it right on the car. I have put 5 or 6 of them on and from my experience they are just thrown together. You MUST take the lid off and check the float drop in both directions and make sure the jets are tight. Turn the two air mixture screws all the way in and then back them out 2-1/2 - 3-1/2 turns. This will get it close enough that it should run and you can fine tune it with a vacume guage later. Also if you bought the electric choke model there is a fast idle screw hidden way down on the linkage. The last carb I put on this screw was way out of adjustment and when I went to start the engine the rpm went sky high instantly. Scared the crap out of me and not good on the engine. Good advice

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: Neil] #98960 08/04/08 05:52 PM 08/04/08 05:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: You may need the chrysler kickdown adapter/throttle linkage part that they sell seperately. When I bought my 800 avs in the picture I posted earlier I had to go back and pick up the adaptor thingy that bolts onto the existing linkage. he will absolutely need the adaptor or else the connecting the throttle cable will be an issue

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #98961 08/04/08 05:52 PM 08/04/08 05:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,485 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,485 Eagle, Idaho	This is the linkage adapter you need to locate. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post4595583

Re: carter afb...where to buy? [Re: Neil] #98962 08/04/08 06:00 PM 08/04/08 06:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or new bee OP Richard Cranium
new bee OP Richard Cranium Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,066 portland or	Will this adaptor work with on a 4sp car? 1969 383 4sp. Super Bee 1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT 1965 Porsche 356C 2004 VW Passat Wagon 2004 Mini Cooper S 1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC A mall cop is in our midst.

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