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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: bee1971] #982598
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This subject gets beat to death

Doo a search , its been discussed a million times

However its funny how some say the paper gaskets are never needed

Really , that brand new Holley Street Dominator Intake that i installed about ten years ago almost cost me a motor - It was sucking oil so bad on the passenger side head intake ports because i failed to use the paper gaskets at all

However the Edelbrock Intakes that i installed didnt require the paper gaskets

If i was buying any intake , used , brand new , aluminum blah blah blah , i would let the intake dictate on whether i would bee using paper gaskets or not by test fitting , lining up the bolt holes etc.

Peace Scott


sorry Scott if my post bothers you,i haven't seen it a million times,and wanted input,what i did was order gaskets,if i need i have,if i don't i won't,as a weekend project,my plan is to get out in the garage,have everything i could need in reach,be cruising by evening,not wishing i had asked before starting my project,where you didn't and it almost cost you a motor,hence my post.

Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: bee1971] #982599
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Thanks for the mention, Scratchn.
I figure 5 bucks per motor to be SURE I don't have to pull the intake back off to look for or fix a leak and then repaint the bolts is pretty cheap insurance; and at .015 thick, the intake isn't jacked up. That's why we made 'em, and we've never had a sealing problem since.

Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: topside] #982600
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sorry Scott if my post bothers you,i haven't seen it a million times





Doo a search function

And no , it doesnt bother me

What bothers me is the guys who say - "Gaskets Are Never Needed"

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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: meepmeep70] #982601
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I agree no papers.Its like wearing a belt and suspenders to hold your pants up.Ive run aluminum intakes and still do with just the tin.A dab of RTV in the 4 corners and i run a little under the pan where the hold downs go.Now on my 440 I have aluminum intake and heads.Just tin.Rocky


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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: meepmeep70] #982602
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kinda dumb,but getting all my ducks in a row so to speak,changing from 4bbl to 6pk manifold,when ordering new felpro gaskets,i would want 2 pair,one i would think would go under valley pan,second on top? thanks




All felpro valley pans come with 4 gaskets in the kit , are you buying a new valley pan ? Otherwise when you order the gasket they come with 4 in the set. Members roadhazard and topside sells gaskets that are half as thick as the felpros, you may want to go that route if you find it hard to get in the bolts on one side after you have one side of bolts already installed.

It would be nice if some people would ACTUALLY answer the freaking question instead of TELLING and ARGUING you what you should do .

Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: therocks] #982603
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I guess I should have mentioned you should test fit the intake 1st no matter what. Some need paper some do not. It sucks to have you goop in place, pan in place, drop the intake an it doesn't fit and you have to run to the store for a $12 part. My brand new RPM (on an old build) had to be milled .030 to fit on a stock 906 headed 440. I think the rule of thumb is, lay the intake on if all te bolt holes line up use the pan only, anything else might require paper and or milling of the intake.


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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: JohnRR] #982604
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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #982605
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using the existing valley pan,and ordering from topside,thank you for answering my question,and for the extra tips.

Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: meepmeep70] #982606
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FWIW, after installing an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, using just the valley pan, I had oil getting down in the cylinders. The intake fit just fine. Oil was getting sucked from the valley to the cylinders. I was told the oil problem was caused because of aluminum and iron expanding and contracting at different rates. Took it off, replaced the valley pan and added a paper gasket to each side. No more oil problem. Just saying.


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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: Junky] #982607
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FWIW, after installing an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, using just the valley pan, I had oil getting down in the cylinders. The intake fit just fine. Oil was getting sucked from the valley to the cylinders. I was told the oil problem was caused because of aluminum and iron expanding and contracting at different rates. Took it off, replaced the valley pan and added a paper gasket to each side. No more oil problem. Just saying.




Same here with a Weiand 8008. Added the paper and no more seepage.

Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: ireland383] #982608
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FWIW, after installing an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, using just the valley pan, I had oil getting down in the cylinders. The intake fit just fine. Oil was getting sucked from the valley to the cylinders. I was told the oil problem was caused because of aluminum and iron expanding and contracting at different rates. Took it off, replaced the valley pan and added a paper gasket to each side. No more oil problem. Just saying.




Same here with a Weiand 8008. Added the paper and no more seepage.




You two are crazy , we have members that have reused the original valley they found in the trash for 50 years and one million miles and they never leaked ...


Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: JohnRR] #982609
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Got em all beat by using lower half of new or used standard gasket, then use paper to seal port areas on my freakish stage 6's.

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FWIW, after installing an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, using just the valley pan, I had oil getting down in the cylinders. The intake fit just fine. Oil was getting sucked from the valley to the cylinders. I was told the oil problem was caused because of aluminum and iron expanding and contracting at different rates. Took it off, replaced the valley pan and added a paper gasket to each side. No more oil problem. Just saying.




Same here with a Weiand 8008. Added the paper and no more seepage.




You two are crazy , we have members that have reused the original valley they found in the trash for 50 years and one million miles and they never leaked ...






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Re: valley pan,intake gasket question? [Re: meepmeep70] #982611
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Just went through this on my buds 68 Coronet RT Convert

Performer RPM Intake - Intake fit fine , valley pan only

Then tried two of the four gaskets supplied in kit
Still fit fine

Then tried all four gaskets - No go , bolt holes wouldnt line up

So i used the two gaskets on the head sides only

Works great - Couldnt of worked out any better
Like i stated in my first post , let the intake dictate gaskets or not - Especially on aftermarket aluminum intakes


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