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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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04/17/11 11:43 AM
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As far as what to take to the dyno, everything! Tools, Spare valvetrain, plugs, gasket sealer, sparkplug wires, plugs, nuts, bolts,wiring,gasket material and sealer,carb linkage , spare crank trigger stuff, whatever you could possibly use in hook up,tuning or repairs you can do with it bolted to the dyno. Vacuum fittings in the intake? (they should have a gauge and readout.)You will find all sorts of things wrong at times. I found problems with sealing the motor up for the vacuum pump. I needed spare plugs to read for tuning. Found a pan leak. My motor plate was pushing against the shutoff valve on my injector, causing a leak. No dyno session, may have burned the car to the ground. Found a vacuum leak in the intake system. I needed thirty quarts of oil and three filters. Milked the oil once, did an ABA test with synthetic.
Questions for the dyno guy; whose ignition will we use? will my headers fit your setup? Look at the dyno hookups to make sure everything you have will fit. My headers wouldn't. Have the motor ready to fire (save for headers) to save time. Have a tuning plan, talk to the dyno guy first. Don't forget to ask the dyno guy what you should bring also. Oil pressure hookup? May be redundant, but something may have been overlooked. Looking forward to a great dyno report!
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
[Re: gregsdart]
#974191
04/17/11 12:04 PM
04/17/11 12:04 PM
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moparniac
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As far as what to take to the dyno, everything! Tools, Spare valvetrain, plugs, gasket sealer, sparkplug wires, plugs, nuts, bolts,wiring,gasket material and sealer,carb linkage , spare crank trigger stuff, whatever you could possibly use in hook up,tuning or repairs you can do with it bolted to the dyno. Vacuum fittings in the intake? (they should have a gauge and readout.)You will find all sorts of things wrong at times. I found problems with sealing the motor up for the vacuum pump. I needed spare plugs to read for tuning. Found a pan leak. My motor plate was pushing against the shutoff valve on my injector, causing a leak. No dyno session, may have burned the car to the ground. Found a vacuum leak in the intake system. I needed thirty quarts of oil and three filters. Milked the oil once, did an ABA test with synthetic.
Questions for the dyno guy; whose ignition will we use? will my headers fit your setup? Look at the dyno hookups to make sure everything you have will fit. My headers wouldn't. Have the motor ready to fire (save for headers) to save time. Have a tuning plan, talk to the dyno guy first. Don't forget to ask the dyno guy what you should bring also. Oil pressure hookup? May be redundant, but something may have been overlooked. Looking forward to a great dyno report!
thx for the pointers...  I do plan on doing the NGK vs autolite plug pull scenario 
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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#974197
04/17/11 06:57 PM
04/17/11 06:57 PM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
cudabin
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I'd just start another thread on that and I'd bet some of the top experts will comment on that! Just a hunch but they may tell you .040 is tight for BB and .055 may be the limit... Ask them though!
I am not an expert, but don't forget with an aluminum block and heads, you will get .010" growth, so the quench distance will grow as well...
You should have .061" after all ???? 
Good luck on the dyno!
Arnie
the length of the sleeve doesn't change, therefore the quench will be the same.
As I said, I am no expert, but if the lash grows .010" how does that not increase the quench?
Please explain... 
Thanks,
Arnie
67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...)
70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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#974198
04/17/11 07:23 PM
04/17/11 07:23 PM
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Delray beach, Florida
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I'd just start another thread on that and I'd bet some of the top experts will comment on that! Just a hunch but they may tell you .040 is tight for BB and .055 may be the limit... Ask them though!
I am not an expert, but don't forget with an aluminum block and heads, you will get .010" growth, so the quench distance will grow as well...
You should have .061" after all ????
Good luck on the dyno!
Arnie
the length of the sleeve doesn't change, therefore the quench will be the same.
As I said, I am no expert, but if the lash grows .010" how does that not increase the quench?
Please explain...
Thanks,
Arnie
the lash grows because the head and block expand. the liner is not aluminum and won't change more than .001-.002 in length. the head is bolted down to the liner, which is typically above the deck anyway. if it's not, it should be.
in other words, the mass of aluminum above the deck will expand changing lash, but has little to no effect on quench since the head is still bolted down tight to the block and liner.
machine shop owner and engine builder
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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#974200
04/18/11 09:06 AM
04/18/11 09:06 AM
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As far as what to take to the dyno, everything! Tools, Spare valvetrain, plugs, gasket sealer, sparkplug wires, plugs, nuts, bolts,wiring,gasket material and sealer,carb linkage , spare crank trigger stuff, whatever you could possibly use in hook up,tuning or repairs you can do with it bolted to the dyno. Vacuum fittings in the intake? (they should have a gauge and readout.)You will find all sorts of things wrong at times. I found problems with sealing the motor up for the vacuum pump. I needed spare plugs to read for tuning. Found a pan leak. My motor plate was pushing against the shutoff valve on my injector, causing a leak. No dyno session, may have burned the car to the ground. Found a vacuum leak in the intake system. I needed thirty quarts of oil and three filters. Milked the oil once, did an ABA test with synthetic.
Questions for the dyno guy; whose ignition will we use? will my headers fit your setup? Look at the dyno hookups to make sure everything you have will fit. My headers wouldn't. Have the motor ready to fire (save for headers) to save time. Have a tuning plan, talk to the dyno guy first. Don't forget to ask the dyno guy what you should bring also. Oil pressure hookup? May be redundant, but something may have been overlooked. Looking forward to a great dyno report!
thx for the pointers... I do plan on doing the NGK vs autolite plug pull scenario
I am really interested in the plug test!
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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04/26/11 07:35 PM
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As far as what to take to the dyno, everything! Tools, Spare valvetrain, plugs, gasket sealer, sparkplug wires, plugs, nuts, bolts,wiring,gasket material and sealer,carb linkage , spare crank trigger stuff, whatever you could possibly use in hook up,tuning or repairs you can do with it bolted to the dyno. Vacuum fittings in the intake? (they should have a gauge and readout.)You will find all sorts of things wrong at times. I found problems with sealing the motor up for the vacuum pump. I needed spare plugs to read for tuning. Found a pan leak. My motor plate was pushing against the shutoff valve on my injector, causing a leak. No dyno session, may have burned the car to the ground. Found a vacuum leak in the intake system. I needed thirty quarts of oil and three filters. Milked the oil once, did an ABA test with synthetic.
Questions for the dyno guy; whose ignition will we use? will my headers fit your setup? Look at the dyno hookups to make sure everything you have will fit. My headers wouldn't. Have the motor ready to fire (save for headers) to save time. Have a tuning plan, talk to the dyno guy first. Don't forget to ask the dyno guy what you should bring also. Oil pressure hookup? May be redundant, but something may have been overlooked. Looking forward to a great dyno report!
thx for the pointers... I do plan on doing the NGK vs autolite plug pull scenario
I am really interested in the plug test!
Ngk R5671A-7 vs which autolite would you like to see?
down to lifters and pushrods...... 
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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#974204
04/26/11 08:52 PM
04/26/11 08:52 PM
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As far as what to take to the dyno, everything! Tools, Spare valvetrain, plugs, gasket sealer, sparkplug wires, plugs, nuts, bolts,wiring,gasket material and sealer,carb linkage , spare crank trigger stuff, whatever you could possibly use in hook up,tuning or repairs you can do with it bolted to the dyno. Vacuum fittings in the intake? (they should have a gauge and readout.)You will find all sorts of things wrong at times. I found problems with sealing the motor up for the vacuum pump. I needed spare plugs to read for tuning. Found a pan leak. My motor plate was pushing against the shutoff valve on my injector, causing a leak. No dyno session, may have burned the car to the ground. Found a vacuum leak in the intake system. I needed thirty quarts of oil and three filters. Milked the oil once, did an ABA test with synthetic.
Questions for the dyno guy; whose ignition will we use? will my headers fit your setup? Look at the dyno hookups to make sure everything you have will fit. My headers wouldn't. Have the motor ready to fire (save for headers) to save time. Have a tuning plan, talk to the dyno guy first. Don't forget to ask the dyno guy what you should bring also. Oil pressure hookup? May be redundant, but something may have been overlooked. Looking forward to a great dyno report!
thx for the pointers... I do plan on doing the NGK vs autolite plug pull scenario
I am really interested in the plug test!
Ngk R5671A-7 vs which autolite would you like to see?
down to lifters and pushrods......
I would think a side gap, extended tip if Autolite makes one, otherwise sidegap?
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno)
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#974205
04/26/11 09:45 PM
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As far as what to take to the dyno, everything! Tools, Spare valvetrain, plugs, gasket sealer, sparkplug wires, plugs, nuts, bolts,wiring,gasket material and sealer,carb linkage , spare crank trigger stuff, whatever you could possibly use in hook up,tuning or repairs you can do with it bolted to the dyno. Vacuum fittings in the intake? (they should have a gauge and readout.)You will find all sorts of things wrong at times. I found problems with sealing the motor up for the vacuum pump. I needed spare plugs to read for tuning. Found a pan leak. My motor plate was pushing against the shutoff valve on my injector, causing a leak. No dyno session, may have burned the car to the ground. Found a vacuum leak in the intake system. I needed thirty quarts of oil and three filters. Milked the oil once, did an ABA test with synthetic.
Questions for the dyno guy; whose ignition will we use? will my headers fit your setup? Look at the dyno hookups to make sure everything you have will fit. My headers wouldn't. Have the motor ready to fire (save for headers) to save time. Have a tuning plan, talk to the dyno guy first. Don't forget to ask the dyno guy what you should bring also. Oil pressure hookup? May be redundant, but something may have been overlooked. Looking forward to a great dyno report!
thx for the pointers... I do plan on doing the NGK vs autolite plug pull scenario
I am really interested in the plug test!
Ngk R5671A-7 vs which autolite would you like to see?
down to lifters and pushrods......
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lol good luck
