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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: emarine01] #974170
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Is the 73 @ 112 or 108?




that was at 112 and thats all your getting outta me


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: emarine01] #974171
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sure is a pretty diamond piston though!



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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974172
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you should of let Todd build it, maybe it will last longer than your last one

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974173
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The cam specs will dictate how much and where, as well as how long it will hold after peak...

Not enough detail for a real good guess, but i will play anyways!

837hp@ 6,800 rpm.

Good luck

Arnie


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974174
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Prolly about a monthish out from being done with my new bullet but wanted to see what your guesss are! First time ever to go to dyno also so any tips to be prepared would be helpful also

Special thanks goes out to Competition Wedge on here for hooking me up with some new bottom end parts! Also like my new Superformance gasket set also thanks to the guys who sent some helpful pm's


New Combo(pump gas baby )
574CI World Aluminum Block
4.500*4.505
7.100 rod
Indy 440-1 CNC 345's from Best Machine
2.25*1.81 ferreas backcut
k motion k 1000H springs
Indy dominator pattern intake milled and ported
Good size custom comp 3/4 roller 112 wide and in at 108 from 112
TD rockers 1.65
Milodon GD
ATI balancer
Melling HV pump
windage tray
milodon static pickup
CVR 55GPM electric waterpump
11.89 to 1 compression

Dynamic compression ratio is 8.84:1
Dynamic cranking pressure is 180.84 PSI.
(calculated via wallace @ 0 altitude)

.051 quench
Diamond pistons cut deeper and rolled edges
Total seal rings
steel top .028
napier 2nd .032
Pro Systems SV1 (1212CFM)
TTI/Proparts 2-2 1/8th ceramic coated headers
MSD goods

tried to be detailed.... prolly forgot something though!





I'll take a SWAG, on your dyno 900+ HP at or above 6300 RPM with 810 Ft. Lbs , on my dyno 845 HP with 775 Ft. lbs at 7000 RPM and on Drams dyno 510 HP at 5900 RPM with 550 ft. lbs on FL pump gas All kidding aside that motor should make 900 + HP on pump gas, be very careful on the ignition timing, spark plug heat range and jetting, richer is better to start with along with a cold plug


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: Cab_Burge] #974175
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Prolly about a monthish out from being done with my new bullet but wanted to see what your guesss are! First time ever to go to dyno also so any tips to be prepared would be helpful also

Special thanks goes out to Competition Wedge on here for hooking me up with some new bottom end parts! Also like my new Superformance gasket set also thanks to the guys who sent some helpful pm's


New Combo(pump gas baby )
574CI World Aluminum Block
4.500*4.505
7.100 rod
Indy 440-1 CNC 345's from Best Machine
2.25*1.81 ferreas backcut
k motion k 1000H springs
Indy dominator pattern intake milled and ported
Good size custom comp 3/4 roller 112 wide and in at 108 from 112
TD rockers 1.65
Milodon GD
ATI balancer
Melling HV pump
windage tray
milodon static pickup
CVR 55GPM electric waterpump
11.89 to 1 compression

Dynamic compression ratio is 8.84:1
Dynamic cranking pressure is 180.84 PSI.
(calculated via wallace @ 0 altitude)

.051 quench
Diamond pistons cut deeper and rolled edges
Total seal rings
steel top .028
napier 2nd .032
Pro Systems SV1 (1212CFM)
TTI/Proparts 2-2 1/8th ceramic coated headers
MSD goods

tried to be detailed.... prolly forgot something though!





I'll take a SWAG, on your dyno 900+ HP at or above 6300 RPM with 810 Ft. Lbs , on my dyno 845 HP with 775 Ft. lbs at 7000 RPM and on Drams dyno 510 HP at 5900 RPM with 550 ft. lbs on FL pump gas All kidding aside that motor should make 900 + HP on pump gas, be very careful on the ignition timing, spark plug heat range and jetting, richer is better to start with along with a cold plug


on pump gas with a 3/4 cam I doubt it.

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: emarine01] #974176
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A quick question on quench..... Small blocks run .040 max.... is it the same for larger cube engines?


....... .... is .051 a functional quench for a big block

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: Quicktree] #974177
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Prolly about a monthish out from being done with my new bullet but wanted to see what your guesss are! First time ever to go to dyno also so any tips to be prepared would be helpful also

Special thanks goes out to Competition Wedge on here for hooking me up with some new bottom end parts! Also like my new Superformance gasket set also thanks to the guys who sent some helpful pm's


New Combo(pump gas baby )
574CI World Aluminum Block
4.500*4.505
7.100 rod
Indy 440-1 CNC 345's from Best Machine
2.25*1.81 ferreas backcut
k motion k 1000H springs
Indy dominator pattern intake milled and ported
Good size custom comp 3/4 roller 112 wide and in at 108 from 112
TD rockers 1.65
Milodon GD
ATI balancer
Melling HV pump
windage tray
milodon static pickup
CVR 55GPM electric waterpump
11.89 to 1 compression

Dynamic compression ratio is 8.84:1
Dynamic cranking pressure is 180.84 PSI.
(calculated via wallace @ 0 altitude)

.051 quench
Diamond pistons cut deeper and rolled edges
Total seal rings
steel top .028
napier 2nd .032
Pro Systems SV1 (1212CFM)
TTI/Proparts 2-2 1/8th ceramic coated headers
MSD goods

tried to be detailed.... prolly forgot something though!





I'll take a SWAG, on your dyno 900+ HP at or above 6300 RPM with 810 Ft. Lbs , on my dyno 845 HP with 775 Ft. lbs at 7000 RPM and on Drams dyno 510 HP at 5900 RPM with 550 ft. lbs on FL pump gas All kidding aside that motor should make 900 + HP on pump gas, be very careful on the ignition timing, spark plug heat range and jetting, richer is better to start with along with a cold plug


on pump gas with a 3/4 cam I doubt it.



i agree. i did not make that much with 14.1 cr with more cylinder head and a bigger cam.....

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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: Old School] #974178
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Id say 900 is high myself lolz... thx for the guess though cab! Id be very happy with 800hp/725tq



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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974179
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first i am not a motor head but i think sledge is real close on his 800 and 725. i just had a dart engine built at westech performance group with close to your specs and it came 823 and 738 on pump gas. it is to be a feature article in engine masters. may edition i hope. they were real concerned with compression and stopped at 10.5 to 1 for pump gas.

good luck sledge.

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974180
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Yep a pretty piston, if ya got the other 7 to go with it. I gotta ask, is this the first aftermarket piston you have ever seen??? What do you expect it to look like, one of your old ones?

What will it dyno?? Without cam specs this sounds like a chebbie post, with the secret 3/4 cam crap. Everytime Ive heard some chevy redneck galk about there 3/4 cam, yep they run 9-s...in the 1/8.

But all BS aside good luck with the new motor, alot of time, money and hard work and money Did I say money

Dyno it up here, it might make 650hp....take 25% off at a REAL 8400FT.

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sure is a pretty diamond piston though!





Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: quick77rt ] #974181
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11.89compression and pump gas? better make sure its good gas.anyway with hp gotta make 850+and tq like monster

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974182
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What will it dyno! (engine dyno) Not much
No seriously 500 hp at idle
Ok Ok it will turn 861hp on the dot.


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11.89compression and pump gas? better make sure its good gas.




Straight outta the pump 93 baby!!! cause thats the way I roll (cam should help )


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: shag766] #974184
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first i am not a motor head but i think sledge is real close on his 800 and 725. i just had a dart engine built at westech performance group with close to your specs and it came 823 and 738 on pump gas. it is to be a feature article in engine masters. may edition i hope. they were real concerned with compression and stopped at 10.5 to 1 for pump gas.

good luck sledge.




thx! whenever the mag article come out let us know


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974185
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Well without knowing the cam I would think you can
make 775-800 which is only 1.35 - 1.4 times the CI

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: emarine01] #974186
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A quick question on quench..... Small blocks run .040 max.... is it the same for larger cube engines?


....... .... is .051 a functional quench for a big block



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I'd just start another thread on that and I'd bet some of the top experts will comment on that! Just a hunch but they may tell you .040 is tight for BB and .055 may be the limit... Ask them though!


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974188
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Ill guestimate 670h.p about 25 percent less than if it had a whole cam

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I'd just start another thread on that and I'd bet some of the top experts will comment on that! Just a hunch but they may tell you .040 is tight for BB and .055 may be the limit... Ask them though!


@ this point I have no intention of building a big block so I really don't have to know the real answer, you didn't say on piston wall clearance so if they are loose and rock a lot than .051 may be fine I thought it was a simple question cause this is for the most part a big block thread ....

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