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What will it dyno! (engine dyno) #974150
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Prolly about a monthish out from being done with my new bullet but wanted to see what your guesss are! First time ever to go to dyno also so any tips to be prepared would be helpful also

Special thanks goes out to Competition Wedge on here for hooking me up with some new bottom end parts! Also like my new Superformance gasket set also thanks to the guys who sent some helpful pm's


New Combo(pump gas baby )
574CI World Aluminum Block
4.500*4.505
7.100 rod
Indy 440-1 CNC 345's from Best Machine
2.25*1.81 ferreas backcut
k motion k 1000H springs
Indy dominator pattern intake milled and ported
Good size custom comp 3/4 roller 112 wide and in at 108 from 112
TD rockers 1.65
Milodon GD
ATI balancer
Melling HV pump
windage tray
milodon static pickup
CVR 55GPM electric waterpump
11.89 to 1 compression

Dynamic compression ratio is 8.84:1
Dynamic cranking pressure is 180.84 PSI.
(calculated via wallace @ 0 altitude)

.051 quench
Diamond pistons cut deeper and rolled edges
Total seal rings
steel top .028
napier 2nd .032
Pro Systems SV1 (1212CFM)
TTI/Proparts 2-2 1/8th ceramic coated headers
MSD goods

tried to be detailed.... prolly forgot something though!




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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974151
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Me first!!
875Hp @ 7000 rpm (ish)


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9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974152
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Its hard for me to guess
Oh well, the 3/4 cam should put you over the 900 mark.

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: 340RICK] #974153
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807 @ 7100 RPM, 733 ft/lbs @ 5400 RPM I tried to be more specific but the 3/4 cam threw me a curve


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: Bigcube] #974154
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775hp 750tq . what the hell is a 3/4 cam?


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: Bigcube] #974155
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Just a seat of the pants guess. A little over 800ish but at a slightly lower rpm than BigCube's guess...6900 peak HP RPM. Let me leave you with well-wishes and good luck.

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: HardcoreB] #974156
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3/4 would be .750


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: StripeHOG] #974157
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That's a 3/4 cam plus a 1.65 rocker so really its like a 7/8 cam. The only problem I see is the compression. Aluminum block and aluminum heads love compression. I think you will be really happy with your power level but left a lot on the table. To bad E85 is such a hassle finding in Pa. I look forward to seeing some passes at PRP.


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: pittsburghracer] #974158
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That's a 3/4 cam plus a 1.65 rocker so really its like a 7/8 cam. The only problem I see is the compression. Aluminum block and aluminum heads love compression. I think you will be really happy with your power level but left a lot on the table. To bad E85 is such a hassle finding in Pa. I look forward to seeing some passes at PRP.




your right on the cam im not into "BIG" compression setups cause im to cheap to pay for race gas and drive streets mostly

Id like to see 800hp/725tq outta the combo


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974159
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New Combo(pump gas baby )
574CI World Aluminum Block
Good size custom comp 3/4 roller 112 wide and in at 108 from 112
11.89 to 1 compression

Dynamic compression ratio is 8.84:1
Dynamic cranking pressure is 180.84 PSI.
(calculated via wallace @ 0 altitude)



Especially important when putting together a pump gas combo is the compression ratio and cam specs. I like your CR choice. What is the duration of that cam?
However, even a cam with "too much" duration for the CR will work OK with that much CID.

It should be close to your target even with that 0.680" lift cam (.75/1.65*1.5). 574 CID does wonders.

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974160
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Good luck Sledgie! Sounds like a real stout piece. Should be able to meet your goals easily.

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Good luck Sledgie! Sounds like a real stout piece. Should be able to meet your goals easily.

Randy




thx! all im down to is lifters and pushrods to finish up


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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974162
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I'll take a stab at 810 hp at 6600 rpm. To drop compression that far, the cam must be pretty wild, say 282 intake dur @ .050?

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Come on Sledgie.... at least tell us when the intake closes..... 3/4 cam

Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974164
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What flow numbers did Pete get out of your 440-1's. Didn't you loan that carb to another member and if so how did it work for them?


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422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

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Come on Sledgie.... at least tell us when the intake closes..... 3/4 cam




OK 73



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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: moparniac] #974166
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Is the 73 @ 112 or 108?

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Are we supposed to guess tQ and Hp with the juice running


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Are we supposed to guess tQ and Hp with the juice running




naaaaaaaa! I just wanna hit a 9 NA on motor only and pump gas/radial tires! just always been my goal! after that its time to mess with the N2O

I did put on a good set of DA shocks for this year also! better brakes even so the car should be lighter also and ive been dieting as well



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Re: What will it dyno! (engine dyno) [Re: gregsdart] #974169
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A quick question on quench..... Small blocks run .040 max.... is it the same for larger cube engines?

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