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A-833, all the same? #970176
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Are there differences in an A-833 from A, B E-bodies?

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #970177
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Yes. I'm not an 833 expert, but the shifter mount pads are all different between A/B/E bodies. 64-69 B/C body trannys are their own deal. While 70-up B and E bodies share the same transmission with the 2 seperate mount pads cast into the same tailshaft.

I believe the transmission mount point also changed in 1970. Prior to then the B body 4 speed transmission had it's own trans mount cross member but the 70 up units are the same as a 727. A body transmissions have a shifter mount in between the B and E bodies, with it's own shorter tail shaft.

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: 440newport] #970178
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So which one(s) will fit in a E-Body and how do you know which is which?

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #970179
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So which one(s) will fit in a E-Body and how do you know which is which?




E bodies need a shifter mount on the very rear of the tailshaft. These also have the B body mount on them as well, but the holes for either one may not be tapped depending on which car it originally came on.

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Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #970180
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Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: 68KillerBee] #970181
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Thanks guys for the info. If I read correctly, it sounds like the newer OD units should work in an E-Body correct? Would you rather have the OD unit over the non OD unit?

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #970182
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The OD 833 will fit and work, but there are NO bolt in Big Block bellhousings to fit. There are ways around that though...........

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: Kern Dog] #970183
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The OD 833 will fit and work, but there are NO bolt in Big Block bellhousings to fit. There are ways around that though...........




So no problems with a small block? OD vs. non OD?

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #970184
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A few years back I pulled and bought 4 833 OD transmissions from Pick n Pull. They came in trucks and vans, slant six and 318s. NO 360s came with this trans. I'm not sure why though.
I have an F body iron case 833 OD in my brother in laws 360 Duster. The trans came from a slant six Volare. We used a 318 bellhousing and a balanced 360 flywheel. All is well!
You could do the same using a truck/van trans since the tailshaft housing is the same overall design as the E body and 71 and later B body design. The clutch fork will need to stay with the truck 318 bell. In some cases, the fork for the trucks are a different length than the cars. I cant remember which was shorter. The reason that I mention it it because it will affect the stiffness of the pedal. A shorter fork requires MORE pedal effort due to it having less leverage. I had to mix and match a few things, but it all works. Good luck and keep us posted!

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: Kern Dog] #970185
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Thanks, I will.

Re: A-833, all the same? [Re: MN-ScatPack] #970186
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64 & 65 trans are easy to spot as they have one mounting pad and have the bolt on ball and trunion end.Rocky


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