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mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 #969742 04/09/11 08:19 AM 04/09/11 08:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio 3 3ddart OP pro stock
3ddart OP pro stock 3 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio	checking out an 8 3/4 axle with a limited-slip and after pulling the axles i couldn't re-install the drivers side all the way. after closer inspection i found the inner set of clutch plates moved to where they are not aligned with the outer set. i tried to move them with no luck. any ideas on getting them back in alignment? thanks, dave

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: 3ddart] #969743 04/09/11 10:43 AM 04/09/11 10:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,942 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,942 U.S.S.A.	sounds like a clutch type and it's not the clutch plate as they are splined to the OD of the side gears . Unfortunately the original clutch type has 2 piece side gears and what you had happen does happen . Hopefully Doc Diff will chime in , but he may be at the MATS ???

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: 3ddart] #969744 04/09/11 10:54 AM 04/09/11 10:54 AM
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Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: checking out an 8 3/4 axle with a limited-slip and after pulling the axles i couldn't re-install the drivers side all the way. after closer inspection i found the inner set of clutch plates moved to where they are not aligned with the outer set. i tried to move them with no luck. any ideas on getting them back in alignment? thanks, dave Loosen the bolts on the sure grip slightly to relieve the pressure on the side gears and put an axle in there to line them up. Leave the axle in and tighten the bolts back up. If you ever get into rebuilding these a lot it's handy to have axle shaft ends cut off from bad axles as an alignment tool.

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: JohnRR] #969745 04/09/11 10:59 AM 04/09/11 10:59 AM
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BRONZEBEE member B Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 166 MINNESOTA	I had a cone style do that to me after a rebuild.Install the other axle and hold it still,or put on ground with the tire.Slide in the other axle until it stops then turn with a large pry bar on the wheel studs and push while turning.

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: BRONZEBEE] #969746 04/09/11 11:07 AM 04/09/11 11:07 AM
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Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: I had a cone style do that to me after a rebuild.Install the other axle and hold it still,or put on ground with the tire.Slide in the other axle until it stops then turn with a large pry bar on the wheel studs and push while turning. If you have not removed the chunk, then try this method. EDIT: Also look down the tube and make sure the thrust buttons are still in place. There is one on each side in the suregrip, these allow for axle end play adjustment. 6576498-thrustbutton.jpeg (16 downloads)

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: BRONZEBEE] #969747 04/09/11 11:29 AM 04/09/11 11:29 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: I had a cone style do that to me after a rebuild.Install the other axle and hold it still,or put on ground with the tire.Slide in the other axle until it stops then turn with a large pry bar on the wheel studs and push while turning. [/quote Do this.. I've do it quite a few times, it works... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #969748 04/09/11 11:52 AM 04/09/11 11:52 AM
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3ddart OP pro stock 3 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio	thanks guys!! i knew moparts would come through. i also thought it might be a thrust button that fell off of the pin but i had looked and they were in place. i've removed the pig so i may try mounting it on a engine stand to try the wiggle and push method and if that won't work i'll loosen the bolts and try. thanks again! dave

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: 3ddart] #969749 04/09/11 12:02 PM 04/09/11 12:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Loosening the bolts won't help unless you take the carrier out of the case, the side bearings will hold the two halves together... If you decide to take it apart measure the backlash first mark the adjusters & the caps... Count the turns .. The thing is if the clutches are good you'll have a hard time getting enough torque on the axles with the unit not solidly mounted in the car... As mentioned, one tire on the ground then either a bar or I've used the other wheel to get leverage to turn the axle forcing the clutches to slip.. While turning push inward.... It make take turning forward and rearward but it will go... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #969750 04/09/11 12:12 PM 04/09/11 12:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,942 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,942 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Loosening the bolts won't help unless you take the carrier out of the case, the side bearings will hold the two halves together... If you decide to take it apart measure the backlash first mark the adjusters & the caps... Count the turns .. The thing is if the clutches are good you'll have a hard time getting enough torque on the axles with the unit not solidly mounted in the car... As mentioned, one tire on the ground then either a bar or I've used the other wheel to get leverage to turn the axle forcing the clutches to slip.. While turning push inward.... It make take turning forward and rearward but it will go... I agree , put it back in the car .

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: JohnRR] #969751 04/09/11 12:26 PM 04/09/11 12:26 PM
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Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: Loosening the bolts won't help unless you take the carrier out of the case, the side bearings will hold the two halves together. Forgot to mention that. Try the aforementioned pry bar and turning method before removing the pig, they should go.

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: Mopar_Country] #969752 04/10/11 06:36 PM 04/10/11 06:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio 3 3ddart OP pro stock
3ddart OP pro stock 3 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio	again, thanks guys!! i did reinstall the center section and drive shaft and put the right side axle in. then took a b-body axle (because of the extra lenght it gave better finger clearence), i held the right side brake drum and my friend used a big cresent and did the wiggle and push deal. it's back together and i took it down the road this afternoon. thanks again to all! dave

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: 3ddart] #969753 04/10/11 11:34 PM 04/10/11 11:34 PM
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BRONZEBEE member B Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 166 MINNESOTA	Good to hear.Does it work?

Re: mis-aligned clutch plates: 8 3/4 [Re: BRONZEBEE] #969754 04/11/11 08:52 AM 04/11/11 08:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio 3 3ddart OP pro stock
3ddart OP pro stock 3 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,466 malvern, ohio	yea, it's fine. i was chasing a shimmy as you would slow to a stop. seems 1 of my centerlines is slightly bent. dave

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