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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Flite_727] #958229
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That should all be done when at the shop getting aligned. That's what you pay them to do.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958230
09/17/11 11:52 PM
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That should all be done when at the shop getting aligned. That's what you pay them to do.




Well, I guess I'll do what I can here so I won't eat my tires up driving the truck to the alignment shop. Thanks guys.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958231
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If your less than 10 miles just drive it. Won't hurt anything. If your further throw some rollers on it drive ther than put the slots back on

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958232
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I finally found one like I wanted, don't yell at me I'll be asking alot of questions again

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: RodStRace] #958233
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Thanks Kevin ,i am doing this conversion and want to add the following:I ordered the lower van control arms from Rock auto for a 1982 b150 with 3300 lb axles,they list for $98 each but were on sale for $79 each, The part #s are Dorman 520-333R and 520-334L These come with the correct ball joints.Just have to grind the stop,enlarge the mounting holes to 3/4 and drill the strut rod mounting holes. Off the truck the spring sits just shy of 3 inches lower,

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Eck] #958234
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Oh I see......wont need that I have a disc rear end from a 74 imperial...



why did you pick a rearend that has a brake system that has obsolete parts???


I am truckless..
Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 340SHORTY] #958235
01/23/12 02:01 PM
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Great thread!

I don't get to the truck forum too much but this reminded me of another lowered truck. I searched for it and found that he had a thread on lowering his truck. I read thru 9 pages to find that he lost interest. It really didn't surprise me after he mentioned the number of cars/trucks that had passed thru his hands within a short period of time. I was hoping to see the final product, though. I was impressed with his abilities.

This thread is more realistic for the hobby guy.

Do they use the van lca's with the dak drop spindles?

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: camdog440] #958236
01/23/12 02:56 PM
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Do they use the van lca's with the dak drop spindles?






That's what I did on mine. I dropped 5" in front and between 5-6" in the rear with the axel over springs. My lower control arms ended up being 3" from the ground, a little low but has been good so far.

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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 77ProStreet] #958237
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I am using the stock 75 truck spindle and knuckles,my rear axle flip dropped 6 inches ,the front should drop about 3. i am running 29" tall tires in the rear and probably 25 front.Not looking for a low rider look more of a drag look.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: speedy383] #958238
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I am using the stock 75 truck spindle and knuckles,my rear axle flip dropped 6 inches ,the front should drop about 3. i am running 29" tall tires in the rear and probably 25 front.Not looking for a low rider look more of a drag look.



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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958239
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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: camdog440] #958240
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Great thread!

I don't get to the truck forum too much but this reminded me of another lowered truck. I searched for it and found that he had a thread on lowering his truck. I read thru 9 pages to find that he lost interest. It really didn't surprise me after he mentioned the number of cars/trucks that had passed thru his hands within a short period of time. I was hoping to see the final product, though. I was impressed with his abilities.

This thread is more realistic for the hobby guy.

Do they use the van lca's with the dak drop spindles?



I just used the Van LCA's on my truck..

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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Webster] #958241
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This is the way it looks with the flipped rear and van lower control arms. I plan on bigger rear rims and tires, sorry about the looks ,had to get it ready to race. Went to Infinion yesterday,ran a couple of 13.50s with tire spin , On the third pass i tore the ring gear out of it,so i will be doing some rear work this week.

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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: speedy383] #958242
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This is the way it looks with the flipped rear and van lower control arms. I plan on bigger rear rims and tires, sorry about the looks ,had to get it ready to race. Went to Infinion yesterday,ran a couple of 13.50s with tire spin , On the third pass i tore the ring gear out of it,so i will be doing some rear work this week.




I like it!!!!!
When you say flipped rear? You mean putting the rear end on top of the leafs? Or flipping the front hangers upside down to lower it? I already have some van control arms to go on my stepside. Another Question??? What coil springs are you guys running up with a 440 in the truck????

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 727builder] #958243
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Flipped means axle ontop of leafs like a car. I ran the coils my truck came with when I swapped to a 400 in my 83. As far as I know they didnt really have diff spring rates other than heavier duty for 1tons but I havent looked into it either.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958244
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I used a b body rear,it has the same spring pad width as the truck and quite a bit narrower.Took a set of front spring hangers and installed them in the back.I reused the stock springs in the front but i have a 360,steering feels good .Here is a picture when i was mocking the rear.

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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 1moparman] #958245
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Any bump steer issues with this? That would be the only downside I could see for what appears to be a low $$ idea that actually works.

Kevin



I used the van lca and cut about 1/2 coil off I have a little bump steer nothing too bad but the angles on the tie rods are definetly not ideal..... my that being said I drive my truck everyday and have had no problems ball joint and tie rod wise... but I'm not completly done yet I want to cut the bump stop bracket down and re-weld it back up. I want to mount my strut rods on the bottom of the control arms by making a hole through the lower control arms(others have made a block and mounted it below). I also still want to notch the drivers side upper c.arm for the steering shaft. if I hit a big dip going to fast theres contact(not ideal). again this is only things I have noticed and my




I did exactly the same....Van LCA with the mods above, a set of new springs, half coil cutted and ended up with this problems....when the truck is on the ground the Tie Rod adjusting sleeve is hitting the Ball Joint from the Drag Link (Driver Side). Beside that I was missing a steering stop and the wheel was tilting and leaning toward the Strut bushing.....when I tried to drive outside the garage and was steering...

All problems could be cured with Rack & Pinion Steering by Dakota....but my plan for tomorrow is using the old springs with OEM length to gain at least one inch space
between Ball Joint and adjusting sleeve and adding a steering stop....late maybe mounting the Strud Rod on bottom of the LCA...

Any other Thoughts????

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 1964Polara] #958246
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PS: I did change also the Drag Link.....maybe i did a mistake......

has anybody pictures to see how it should be mounted? The Nuts of the Inner Tie Rods are now pointing to the K-Member. Is this right or should they point in direction to the front?

In another thread (Dakota spindles) they pointed to the front see here:


And which way the outer tie rods are mounted? Like on the photo on bottom of the spindle or on Top?

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 1964Polara] #958247
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The tie rod end at the spindle (nuckle) appears wrong .I have 3 74/75 trucks and the nut is at the bottom.That should be a tapered hole so be should be easy to figure out how it goes.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 1964Polara] #958248
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PS: I did change also the Drag Link.....maybe i did a mistake......

has anybody pictures to see how it should be mounted? The Nuts of the Inner Tie Rods are now pointing to the K-Member. Is this right or should they point in direction to the front?

In another thread (Dakota spindles) they pointed to the front see here:


And which way the outer tie rods are mounted? Like on the photo on bottom of the spindle or on Top?





This picture is exactly how mine looks, because I also used Dak spindles with van lca's. On the Dak spindle, the outer tie rod does point up, that's how their tapered. And the inner tie rod points forward not backwards. I do get a little bump steer also...but nothing hits....I have yet to take it on the freeway.

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