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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: '84 D150 Shorty] #958209
04/16/11 03:58 PM
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Awesome job! Questions: how many inches drop to the axle flip yield? Are those shock mount plates the original ones from the truck or did you have to use different ones? Are using drop shackels in addition to this or doing just the axle flop?




The axle flip dropped my truck right at 6" in the rear. The shock plates are the original ones to the truck. They were clamped to the bottom of the axle. They clamped to the leaf springs just fine despite the fact they are made to clamp to an axle. I just moved the axle on top of the leafs. I didn't use any other method of lowering.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958210
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Just looking at your springs . Do you have 5 leafs & a helper spring on the bottom , or is there 2 helper springs there . I also would like to lower mine after it comes back from the body shop . My front is down , just need to do the back .

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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 7t8warlock] #958211
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Just looking at your springs . Do you have 5 leafs & a helper spring on the bottom , or is there 2 helper springs there . I also would like to lower mine after it comes back from the body shop . My front is down , just need to do the back .




There are 5 leafs on each side.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958212
04/17/11 06:45 AM
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Are you planning to weld the perches to the axle? Im glad to here the shock plates can still be used instead of hitting the jy fo car ones but I still might

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958213
04/17/11 09:26 AM
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Are you planning to weld the perches to the axle?




Yes. I welded one side yesterday before I ran out of time. I'll try to do the other today.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958214
04/17/11 11:38 AM
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Hmm.. if I flopped the axle, I would need to undo the drop shackles I've got...otherwise ill end up bulldogged....eeeewww....why the heck do they do that anyway? It looks sooooo dumb!

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958215
04/17/11 12:05 PM
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Are you planning to weld the perches to the axle? Im glad to here the shock plates can still be used instead of hitting the jy fo car ones but I still might


You can use the stock plates, but will begin to squeak over time because the plate isn't located to te center pin on te spring. I did this same thing on the first one that I lowered over 20 or more years ago. I drag raced mine & made the axle slide forward on the springs because it was only located on one side of the pin.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: BulletBob] #958216
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i just make up a 3/16" steel plate,with a 1/2" hole drilled in the center (to locate the pin) and weld it to the shock plate. works like a champ.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: BulletBob] #958217
04/17/11 03:06 PM
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You can use the stock plates, but will begin to squeak over time because the plate isn't located to te center pin on te spring. I did this same thing on the first one that I lowered over 20 or more years ago. I drag raced mine & made the axle slide forward on the springs because it was only located on one side of the pin.




I wouldn't think the axle would move at all with it all being clamped together with the U-bolts and the spring perches being located by the center pins. I guess I'll weld a centering plate to the spring side of the shock plates.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958218
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I used ubolts and brackets from speedway they were cheap. to flip my rear

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-Lower-Leaf-Spring-Plates,24488.html

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 1moparman] #958219
04/18/11 12:15 AM
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I can drive there

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958220
04/18/11 10:00 PM
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My brother works there, he can bring me parts!


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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: hp383] #958221
04/18/11 10:05 PM
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e Does What kinda discount does he get?

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: 76dodgeboy] #958222
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You can weld a plate with a hole in it into the stocker to locate with. This can be done by loosening the bolts & sliding the plate through. Then tighten the bolts & weld in place. The axle is supposed to locate on the top & bottom of the spring bolt.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: BulletBob] #958223
04/24/11 06:13 PM
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You can use the stock plates, but will begin to squeak over time because the plate isn't located to te center pin on te spring. I did this same thing on the first one that I lowered over 20 or more years ago. I drag raced mine & made the axle slide forward on the springs because it was only located on one side of the pin.




The squeaking already started and I haven't put any miles to speak of on the truck yet. I welded this one up today. I used that factory centering piece that was on top of the leaf springs. I cut the tab off and ground down the edges so it would fit flush.


Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958224
04/29/11 12:41 AM
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I edited the first post. I had to cut the bump stop brackets off because they were hitting the lower control arms when I hit bumps in the road.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958225
09/17/11 07:57 PM
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This truck has been on the back burner for a few months. I fiddled with the upper control arms some today to get the camber close to spec. so I can take the truck for an alignment. I loosened the nuts and turned the bolts to move the upper control arm away from the truck frame. The adjustment cam on each bolt limits the movement and the camber is still off some. Does this cam need to be removed to be able to get the camber in spec? I assume you just have to remove the bolt and the cam will slide off.

The arrow in the picture shows what I am talking about.

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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958226
09/17/11 08:11 PM
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You shouldn't remove the cam because then you won't be able to adjust for camber at all.

Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: stumpy] #958227
09/17/11 08:30 PM
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How much does it need to come out? couldnt the rivits be drilled out and a 1/8" or 3 1/16" plate be bolted inbetween the A arm bracket and the frame?


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Re: How to Lower Your 1972-1993 Dodge Pickup [Re: Kevin I] #958228
09/17/11 10:51 PM
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This truck has been on the back burner for a few months. I fiddled with the upper control arms some today to get the camber close to spec. so I can take the truck for an alignment. I loosened the nuts and turned the bolts to move the upper control arm away from the truck frame. The adjustment cam on each bolt limits the movement and the camber is still off some. Does this cam need to be removed to be able to get the camber in spec? I assume you just have to remove the bolt and the cam will slide off.

The arrow in the picture shows what I am talking about.



moog makes the "problem solver" uca bushings with the hole offset to get more camber and/or caster depending on how you install them. p/n K7189 for your truck.
BTW i am a machinist, & several yrs. ago i did expirment around & made up some uca cams with the bolt hole even more offset than oem, i didn't end up using them though, because IIRC there wasn't enough room to get a socket on the bolt head when the cam was to the extreme in or out position. (maybe use allen head bolts)

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