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repop fender tags,here we go again? #95524
07/27/08 02:30 PM
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ok,dont want to start a pee match,but one of the cudas i bought,the dude said he had the fender tag to the one,but im guessing he dont. i have a clear title,the original window sticker,and the car[duh].whats the chance of getting a f/tag made for this car.I AM NOT TRYING TO CLONE OR REDO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TAG,NOR DO I NEED TO HEAR THE VIN NUMBER SPEECH,PLEASE.so who does the tags,and what info do they need to do a corrct job? thanks.

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95525
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oh i have the original door decal also on the car

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95526
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Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95527
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oh i have the original door decal also on the car




do you have the ORIGINAL BROADCAST SHEET ?

if not how are you even going to make a remotely accurate tag ???

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: JohnRR] #95528
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whats the chance of getting a f/tag made for this car.




The chances of getting one are good. There are several people out there including Trim Tags.

Be aware there are mistakes in their samples.

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I AM NOT TRYING TO CLONE OR REDO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TAG,




As John said, without the broadcast sheet or other factory documentation, it will not be correct.

So you can get any and all the tags you want but without paperwork, it will not be accurate. And even with paperwork.....well....


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Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95529
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The original poster said he has the window sticker. Seems like a lot of people are hanging their hats on the broadcast sheet as the only thing to make a tag from? I would think the window sticker would be just about enough info?

I'd like to see an example of an item that is on both a broadcast sheet and fender tag, but not on a window sticker. I'm trying to come up with one but it is too early:)


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Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: sg333e] #95530
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I'd like to see an example of an item that is on both a broadcast sheet and fender tag, but not on a window sticker.




M21 when it was standard but it also depends on what a specific plant did and didn't code on the tag.

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Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #95531
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i have looked for the b/sheet,but have not found one.any "secret" locations on a ebody? i would love to find it on both of the cudas. the one is a la build car.thanks for the input.

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95532
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I don't know about Los Angeles cars, but the BEST place to find a build sheet on a 1970 Hamtramck E body is behind the plastic bucket seat back on the drivers seat. I have found several there, and they are generally in the best condition.
I once bought a FJ6 T/A body, and pulled the back off the bucket seat and found a mint build sheet,
folded over twice in a square. It was almost like a brand new sheet of paper.

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Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: sg333e] #95533
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The original poster said he has the window sticker. Seems like a lot of people are hanging their hats on the broadcast sheet as the only thing to make a tag from? I would think the window sticker would be just about enough info?

I'd like to see an example of an item that is on both a broadcast sheet and fender tag, but not on a window sticker. I'm trying to come up with one but it is too early:)




I missed the window sticker part , but even with the window sticker it will require RESEARCH of same models from the same plant to get the proper codes .

But he is going to have to guess on at least the build date after doing research on VIN's , the door sticker only shows the month and year .

Does the window sticker show the order number and the sequence number ?

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: JohnRR] #95534
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Does the window sticker show the order number and the sequence number ?




Yes. The SPD too.

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #95535
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Does the window sticker show the order number and the sequence number ?




Yes. The SPD too.




Thanks Barry , didn't realize that ...

FORGE AWAY .... ...








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Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95536
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They did not build Cudas at the Lynch Rd. plant, but just as an example, a B/S will not give you all of the info that is on a L.R. tag on the top line.

There is too much stock put in the scheduled production date because, it is just that, a SCHEDULED date. That does not mean it was actually built on that date.

There is different information on all three items, B/S, FT, and window sticker all are relative to some degree and many are redundant. The B/S is redundant in itself coding certain things twice.

The FT was basically information for the body in white with regards to the equipment that dictated what firewall was to be installed, etc.

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #95537
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FWIW: The LA tags were coded similarly to St. Louis and Hamtramck, but usually used a thinner font (not always)...Also, out of all of the tags I've researched over the years, I've never seen an LA tag that didn't have the bend in the upper left corner....but??

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Bend?? What exactly are you talking about? Please explain? Tks

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: gomangoRTSE] #95539
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yes the la build car has the finer font,but i dont see the bent corner,as others have.its a two tag car,maybe the reason? i sure wish the guy could look harder for the other tag,i dont need the hassle of a repo tag story. this is one of several cars i have bought the dumbass owners have lost,kept,whatever,the tags.at least i have the window sticker,and how strange is that,loose the tags and have the sticker,duh.

Re: repop fender tags,here we go again? [Re: gomangoRTSE] #95540
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The fender tags were some times held down with only one screw during the paint process in order to paint the inner fender under it vand the under side of the tag. Then it was screwed down after the paint dried. When you remove the tag there is and unpainted corner where it was screwed down with the one screw and bent up. See the attached picture example the yellow on is an L.A. built (thin font fender tag) car.

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