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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: bobby66] #952509 03/20/11 08:06 PM 03/20/11 08:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,538 Albany, NY 67SATisfaction The member whose name is actually Art
67SATisfaction The member whose name is actually Art Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,538 Albany, NY	dgas - Sounds like you have a good grip on what you know and what you like. So, yes I agree you would be better off passing on it with the poly, rust issues and vinyl top. For anyone who likes 66/67's the car isn't such a bad deal, especially if the trim is all there and good. An engine swap is easy and sheetmetal can be found. I believe I have seen repop QP patches for sale (?). A big hurdle and cost is the trim. A lot of 1-year-only parts for the early Satellites (65, 66, 67). Regarding popularity and value of the 66/67's, you either love em or hate em. We bought our '67 convertible in excellent condition with factory 383/2bbl (1-of-107) from a Mopar guy who simply didn't like it and wanted a '68. It cost a lot less than $10k. Best, -Art 65 Satellite hardtop 361/4bbl console 727 2.76 67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23 67 Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 Zagato. Alloy body, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 71 Alfa Romeo GT Junior 1300 Zagato, 1.3L 4cyl DOHC hemi 5-spd 82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle 75 Maserati Bora US spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 07 Aston Martin DB9 6.0L DOHC V12 6spd transaxle

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: 67SATisfaction] #952510 03/20/11 09:08 PM 03/20/11 09:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN D dgas OP member
dgas OP member D Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN	I looked at a titled 71 Satellite Sebring today ,an utter sh-tbox w three redeeming quality's -A fresh 440/727, New 4 core BBlk radiator and a ratty bucket seat /console interior in about three different colors but right. 8 1/4 RE, drum brakes on all four corners. Probably worth the $2650. to buy it. But way too much work for me to do. Had it been solid, but dented I would have bought it. But rust issues on all four corners,no windshield and bad winshield area sheetmetal (needs ALL the surrounding metal around the windshield mounting area) caused me to bail. I'm still lookin heh heh

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: dgas] #952511 03/20/11 09:37 PM 03/20/11 09:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo top fuel
terzmo top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	I am a supporter of the 66/67 satellites and coronets. This car has alot going for it like buckets/console and mostly solid body. They make paqtch panels for small rust areas. If You want a drag car running 11's then You have alot of work. There are aftermarket intakes for a 4 barrel setup. I had a 60 phoenix with a stock 318/4 bbl setup and it chirped the tires going into second at 60. A 340 stroked would be an easy fit and realy turn it on. The only bummer about these body style is the wheel well...cannot get a fat tire on...this is My 67 satellite/GTX tribute...498 stroker 6540714-IM000605.JPG (82 downloads)

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: terzmo] #952512 03/21/11 09:24 AM 03/21/11 09:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 806 Belle Mead, NJ 6 65Frank super street
65Frank super street 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 806 Belle Mead, NJ	Terzmo - Beautiful car

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: dgas] #952513 03/21/11 09:43 AM 03/21/11 09:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Turned out to be a 1966 Satellite w a poly 318 not bad but rust starting in the lower Qtrs and above the rear wheel openings. Crappy blue paint is peeling in many places. I can feel rust bubbles under the poorly added on vinyl top which scares me, I've been there B4. I'll probably pass on both as they are not really what I want. I am put off by the Poly motor and flaking paint. I tend to avoid vinyl top cars as well. Neither is worth the $4500 he wants for either car to me . BUT I may change my mind later. ???? $4500 seems like a fair price to me for a running driving car. Those 66-67 Plymouth can catch some good $$$. The Dodges on the other hand If you are looking for a cheap nice B-body try a 66-67 coronet. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #952514 03/21/11 10:07 AM 03/21/11 10:07 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN D dgas OP member
dgas OP member D Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN	After reading all of this and other posts about these cars. I see that it is most likely worth his price. However I do want a car I have to repaint and for sure no or minimal rust. Not a newly painted or showy restored type of car. But a decent driver that I would not be embarrassed to drive to a cruise. I have decided to spend more $$$ for the 67-75 A body car in the condition I want altho I will continue to look at 62-74 B bodys as well.

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: dgas] #952515 03/21/11 10:51 AM 03/21/11 10:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	73-75 A-body's have no re-sale value. So be careful on those. Hard to find a good running, non-needing paint car for 5k. I'd say if you want a nice looking driving car...a mopar, be prepaired to pay 8-10k at the least. 68-70 B's a good roller body can cost that much.

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #952516 03/21/11 11:05 AM 03/21/11 11:05 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN D dgas OP member
dgas OP member D Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN	Thats about my ball park. But I am looking at cars from $1200 all the way up to $12K. I am just a picky and cheap SOB + at 10 K I will want exactly what I am looking for w little or no give. @ three weeks in to the hunt I have all the time in the world and am in no hurry. Year, two or when the economy finally collapes completely I'll find the right car. I practically live on Ebay,RJ,Car soup and CL and check all of them three times a day(retired and in a MN winter). From past experiance I'll most likely find the car at the swaps this summer or on CL. In the meantime the amount I can spend will keep growing as I continue to sell off all of my left over brand X restoration,HP and racing parts.

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: dgas] #952517 03/21/11 11:07 AM 03/21/11 11:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Thats about my ball park. But I am looking at cars from $1200 all the way up to $12K. I am just a picky and cheap SOB + at 10 K I will want exactly what I am looking for w little or no give. @ three weeks in to the hunt I have all the time in the world and am in no hurry. Year, two or when the economy finally collapes completely I'll find the right car. I practically live on Ebay,RJ,Car soup and CL and check all of them three times a day(retired and in a MN winter). heh heh There are some good deals in the "for sale" here. I'd rather buy a car form a member than off of e-bay. DAMHIK

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #952518 03/21/11 11:17 AM 03/21/11 11:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN D dgas OP member
dgas OP member D Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 18 MN	Yep, I check them here and the other main Mopar site daily. Some nice stuff, most is just too far away and I'd rather spend the money here on a better car than pay a shipper. But I continue to look. MN, eastern Dakota's and western WI has a LOT of mopar guys. (In respect for the fellow club member I pulled the indentifying pics so as not to shotgun his chances of selling the car tho I doubt my inexperianced opinion would stop anyone.) Now on the high side of this the guy that has that 71 Satallite has a spare low milage 440 cheap. So If I can find out EXACTLY what I would need to do to put a 40 in this 66. I might just go for it. He called and dropped the price $500 so it IS getting more attractive now. I heard there are some conversion mounts available???. But what about the trans? Will a poly 318 trans(727??) fit a 440? Spendy HP Exaust manifolds a must have?

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: 65Frank] #952519 03/21/11 03:48 PM 03/21/11 03:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo top fuel
terzmo top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	Quote: Terzmo - Beautiful car Thanks

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: dgas] #952520 03/23/11 02:48 PM 03/23/11 02:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,702 North Dakota 6PakBee I Live Here
6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,702 North Dakota	Quote: I did not get a photo of the Qtr rust but it is significant as is the above wheel rust I would be looking at finding at least full length 1/2 Qtrs at the least. I'll be moving on from these two as I think I found my A body-73 Dart, BUT I have not looked at that in person either. In my searching I have found a significant number of decent cars under 7k around the country. So they are out there, just not in my area and shipping is prohibitive. But I'll keep looking. I am going to look at a transplanted 440/auto 73 Satellite today. Who is making decent full length half quarters for the '66-'67 B bodies? All I've seen is junk like Sherman Auto sells. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: 6PakBee] #952521 03/23/11 03:33 PM 03/23/11 03:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced B bboogieart master
bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	Living in Northern Wisc. I can relate to availability here. You might want to look at the Dakotas or Montana. More rust free stuff out west.I have the name of a fellow in Montana that sells rust free parts and cars I can send you his info if you want. I think you have a good grip on what you want and what you want to pay. If more folks were like you the prices wouldn't be so high. I can't find anything here that is not a total rust bucket for $4,000. I have some c-bodies to keep me happy for now but would like to get back into a 69 Dodge b-body. Gonna be a long wait. Any way you keep it up and let us know what you find. Last edited by bboogieart; 03/23/11 03:35 PM.

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: terzmo] #952522 03/23/11 10:10 PM 03/23/11 10:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 120 North Seattle, Washington. USA U code RR member
U code RR member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 120 North Seattle, Washington. USA	Quote: The only bummer about these body style is the wheel well...cannot get a fat tire on... I guess it depends on how determined you are! 6545978-PICT1257a.JPG (42 downloads) When seconds count... The Police are only minutes away. Smith and Wesson are your friends.

Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ??? [Re: U code RR] #952523 03/23/11 10:20 PM 03/23/11 10:20 PM
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DusterKrazy master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	I had a '66 Belvedere and I really miss it. If you were looking to buy one, get one as complete as you can and in the best shape you can find/afford. I know when I had mine that the aftermarket was a joke and when you did find parts, they were $$$$. Cheap b-body?? 1966 or 67 Dodge Charger or Coronet for sure. I remember having a '74 road runner and selling it because I could not find anything for it. Trying to fix a car that they don't make anything for is beyond a pain.

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