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Headman shorty headers #950752 03/14/11 07:49 PM 03/14/11 07:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	For big block. Anyone use them on a B-body?? 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Headman shorty headers [Re: moparmarks] #950753 03/14/11 08:23 PM 03/14/11 08:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,806 Northern NJ StukaJU87 master
StukaJU87 master Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,806 Northern NJ	I have them on my 440 in my 69 b body wagon. The passenger side fits great. The driver's side: The #7 tube is right against the power steering box. The collector will interfere with stock auto trans cooling lines. I was able to bend mine out of the way. I used a mini starter from DB Electrical. If you have manual steering it will most likely fit better. Any other questions, just ask. Oh...Happy Birthday! Scott 1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed

Re: Headman shorty headers [Re: StukaJU87] #950754 03/14/11 08:29 PM 03/14/11 08:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,806 Northern NJ StukaJU87 master
StukaJU87 master Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,806 Northern NJ	.....and I also had to use a Milodon flexible dipstick and tube to fit properly. Scott 1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed

Re: Headman shorty headers [Re: moparmarks] #950755 03/16/11 12:50 PM 03/16/11 12:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 120 North Seattle, Washington. USA U code RR member
U code RR member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 120 North Seattle, Washington. USA	I used em' on my 72'Sat 400/727. They worked great,much easier to get at the plugs and route the wires. Mine fit close to the PS box but didn't touch it, I had new motor mounts maybe that made a difference. You have a little bit of adjustment in the motor mount brackets if you want to take the time to adjust everything. Loosen the bolts and jack the motor up then re-tighten the bolts, just adjust every thing BEFORE you get your exhaust system welded up! When seconds count... The Police are only minutes away. Smith and Wesson are your friends.

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: U code RR] #950756 03/17/11 10:55 PM 03/17/11 10:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Thanks guys. You said they'ed work so I tried a set that a friend had. This is on my 72 SSP beaterdriver. #7 abit close to the box. 6535556-DCP_0027.JPG (79 downloads) 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Headman shorty headers [Re: moparmarks] #950757 03/17/11 10:56 PM 03/17/11 10:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	And to the shock tower. 6535560-DCP_0028.JPG (77 downloads) 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Headman shorty headers [Re: moparmarks] #950758 03/17/11 11:00 PM 03/17/11 11:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Over all they fit pretty good. Like that they don't capture the starter. Just have to drive it into town to the muffler shop and have head pipes made to connect to my exhaust. Had a nice set of short tube full headers in there with the 383 but with the 440 they were up into the T-bars abit to much. 6535572-DCP_0029.JPG (54 downloads) 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: moparmarks] #950759 03/18/11 03:07 AM 03/18/11 03:07 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Quote: Thanks guys. You said they'ed work so I tried a set that a friend had. This is on my 72 SSP beaterdriver. #7 abit close to the box. HEY...I like that steering coupler retainer! Where can I get one of those? The stock design has always been a pisser for me.

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: Kern Dog] #950760 03/18/11 06:56 AM 03/18/11 06:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes... Pale_Roader Swears too much
Pale_Roader Swears too much Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes...	My friend had a set installed (by a shop) on his 73 Satellite (440 auto) and they were pretty bad. I dont know how much ov this mess was the shops fault (they were butchers) but i could see the one collector shooting right towards something (been a while, i forget) necessitating a rather extreme dogleg around it. The shop did this by necking sharply down to a 2" pipe... and pressbent it all to [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] (so bad that the car actually slowed down), but i remember looking at it and thinking there may be room to get a mendrel 2 1/2" pipe around it, should someone make the time and effort. I have the headers now and was thinking ov using them on my 72 Charger to replace the Hooker longtubes, but i've always wondered how these Hedmans performed... I figured with some collector mods they could be a decent performance piece...???

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: Pale_Roader] #950761 03/18/11 07:12 AM 03/18/11 07:12 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,764 Holland MI Ottawa 2 2boltmain master
2boltmain master 2 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,764 Holland MI Ottawa	Are the Hedman shorties application specific or are they a generic "Tight to the block" hot rod type header? The Schumacher shorties are a true no fuss drop in BUT are much more $$ than Hedmans. (The Schumachers are like steel manifolds- very thick beefy construction) Keep old mopars alive.

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: Kern Dog] #950762 03/19/11 03:24 AM 03/19/11 03:24 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: Quote: Thanks guys. You said they'ed work so I tried a set that a friend had. This is on my 72 SSP beaterdriver. #7 abit close to the box. HEY...I like that steering coupler retainer! Where can I get one of those? The stock design has always been a pisser for me. Can't remember who is making them. Picked up a couple at the NATS. They are awesome. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: 2boltmain] #950763 03/19/11 03:33 AM 03/19/11 03:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: Are the Hedman shorties application specific or are they a generic "Tight to the block" hot rod type header? The Schumacher shorties are a true no fuss drop in BUT are much more $$ than Hedmans. (The Schumachers are like steel manifolds- very thick beefy construction) Yes they are the hot rod block huggers. Probably will have to put a kick at the collector. I'm going to go ahead and use them. Want my car on the road. They are alittle closer to the plugs than the full Headmans or Hooker S/C. Thats the big issue with headers on a BB. Burning up exspensive plug wires at the plug boot. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: moparmarks] #950764 03/19/11 10:05 AM 03/19/11 10:05 AM
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rattler super stock R Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 773 Crofton, Ky.	I bought a no-name set of polished stainless off e-bay a couple of years ago. The plug boots are going to be really close. I guess i will find out when i get the body back on. Randy 6537763-Oldtruck009.jpg (67 downloads) 1957 Dodge truck, Snakeskin Green with a little stroker motor. 1964 Plymouth Savoy wagon ( my new project)

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: rattler] #950765 03/19/11 10:15 AM 03/19/11 10:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,633 Jacksonville, NC RonP top fuel
RonP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,633 Jacksonville, NC	Don't want to get way off track, but getting ready to put a lowdeck 451 in a 73 Satellite and was looking at the headers that schumacher offers They look pretty pricey, but are supposed to be an absolute perfect fit. Anybody run these and have opinions?

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: RonP] #950766 03/19/11 10:40 AM 03/19/11 10:40 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,764 Holland MI Ottawa 2 2boltmain master
2boltmain master 2 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,764 Holland MI Ottawa	Quote: Don't want to get way off track, but getting ready to put a lowdeck 451 in a 73 Satellite and was looking at the headers that schumacher offers They look pretty pricey, but are supposed to be an absolute perfect fit. Anybody run these and have opinions? My brother went with Schumachers in his Duster 440 project. They install easily..EASILY. Plug changes are not hard although one or 2 plugs require the plug socket with a wrench on the hex. His engine is estimated at under 450 horsepower. Schumachers are not gonna make/support the power of TTIs or fenderwell hookers BUT they are zero headache to install and future starter access/removal is not a problem. BTW- He used Remflex gaskets and has not had a leak since installation in 06. Keep old mopars alive.

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: 2boltmain] #950767 03/19/11 12:24 PM 03/19/11 12:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 660 East Lansing, Michigan O OldHippie super gas
OldHippie super gas O Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 660 East Lansing, Michigan	If you are going with a shortie style header why mess with the center dump style on a stock bodied car? They are designed for a street rod application although I have seen a set on a pick-up truck, 440 engine, that needed just slight notching of the upper frame rail to work. Hedman makes an Elite series header that is routed much better and actually works well on a milder engine combination. The steering coupler that was shown, from what the original manufacturer said, is no longer in production and is currently not available. Last edited by OldHippie; 03/19/11 12:25 PM. The Old Hippie Hisself

Re: Headman shorty headers update w/ pics [Re: OldHippie] #950768 03/20/11 08:39 AM 03/20/11 08:39 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks OP I Live Here
moparmarks OP I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: If you are going with a shortie style header why mess with the center dump style on a stock bodied car? They are designed for a street rod application although I have seen a set on a pick-up truck, 440 engine, that needed just slight notching of the upper frame rail to work. Hedman makes an Elite series header that is routed much better and actually works well on a milder engine combination. The steering coupler that was shown, from what the original manufacturer said, is no longer in production and is currently not available. To get me out of a jam. Friend has the shorties. No time or money to go searching for headers right now, not for the no budget driverbeater. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

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