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430" small block build #912622
01/24/11 03:49 PM
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I started gathering parts for my build -

The block is at the machine shop getting ready...
It's a late 70's X block that i've been hanging on to for several years.



After speaking with Rod Bloomer I decided to go with one of his BPE 4.125" cranks. I'm planning on updating this post when it gets to the machine shop as they can check for stroke, taper and out of round for me.


The crank I got with the X block was a BRC 3.75" stroke - with radius journals on the rods, but not on the mains, the BPE has full radius rod and main journals.



The old crank had more then 6 slugs in it along with some extra welds on the counterweight to balance it for rods and pistons I never got with the deal to I was always leary of the crank and what it would take to balance it correctly the next time.


After speaking with Rod and RyanJ they made the decision easy to go with the Compstar rods - 6.200 and the 2" journal makes them nice and light - they come in at 595 grams on my scale. A K-1 in the same size weighs around 627 grams!


I got the pistons from Rod on Saturday. BPE's stocking these now with a -17cc dish that will give me 10.25:1 with a fel pro .039 gasket and eddy head. I believe a flat top is also available but you can call Rod for more info. They weigh 468 grams on my scale.




So it looks like I have a nice light assembly that should utilize that X block I have laying around. If there is interest I'll keep the updates coming.

Re: 430" small block build [Re: DJVCuda] #912623
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I don't even like small blocks and I'm interested All kidding aside, please keep us updated, looks like a real nice bullet in the making


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Re: 430" small block build [Re: Get-X] #912624
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Please keep us updated.I am looking forward to your results.
Keith

Re: 430" small block build [Re: DJVCuda] #912625
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Re: 430" small block build [Re: Get-X] #912626
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Very Interested -looking to build a new engine for my Duster , just not sure which way I am going yet. Who do you have doing all the machine work? and Assembly?

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Re: 430" small block build [Re: JSR1485] #912627
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http://www.fonseperformance.com/

Fonse Performance in Erial NJ is doing all the machine work.

Al Fonse Jr has helped me with dyno'ing my EFI setup.

Re: 430" small block build [Re: Get-X] #912628
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I don't even like small blocks and I'm interested All kidding aside, please keep us updated, looks like a real nice bullet in the making



Then you wont like BPE new 4.25" crank for a 440" + SB

Re: 430" small block build [Re: JSR1485] #912629
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what do the pistons weigh?

Re: 430" small block build [Re: emarine01] #912630
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468 grams on my scale bare
the rods are 595

Re: 430" small block build [Re: ademon] #912631
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Quote:

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I don't even like small blocks and I'm interested All kidding aside, please keep us updated, looks like a real nice bullet in the making



Then you wont like BPE new 4.25" crank for a 440" + SB




I saw that baby in the new products section! That's an incredible deal on that crank. Hats off to BPE for really coming thru with a nice crank at a awesome price. Almost makes me want to build a smallie.....almost


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Re: 430" small block build [Re: DJVCuda] #912632
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Quote:

http://www.fonseperformance.com/

Fonse Performance in Erial NJ is doing all the machine work.

Al Fonse Jr has helped me with dyno'ing my EFI setup.





Al Jr. has been doing work for us for years.
Won't find nicer people to do business with.
Their work is second to none.

Walt Haas sr.

Re: 430" small block build [Re: Somerdale Flash] #912633
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sounds like a great build, what heads are you going to use? keep us informed

Re: 430" small block build [Re: Quicktree] #912634
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These are my favorite threads! Keep it up!


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Re: 430" small block build [Re: DJVCuda] #912635
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Will a stock block handle the 4.25 crank in a low RPM torque engine?


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Re: 430" small block build [Re: fed] #912636
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Thats very nice Dave, I think your in for alot of fun.

Re: 430" small block build [Re: fed] #912637
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You know that 3.75 crank would fit nice inside my 9" deck... I'll take it off your hands for cheap.

Re: 430" small block build [Re: fed] #912638
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Quote:

Will a stock block handle the 4.25 crank in a low RPM torque engine?




That's what I was wondering. VERY interested to watch this build. I'm also wondering if you have enough tire under that thing for this bullet!! Should be WAY FUN!!

Re: 430" small block build [Re: DJVCuda] #912639
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Sweet build Dave.....I was very impressed with the Compstar pieces in my 565" BBC....wish they would carry the Mopar line, but when asked they said "nothing planned in the see-able future"

Rickster

Re: 430" small block build [Re: cudadoug] #912640
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awesome but what u gonna do about heads?

Re: 430" small block build [Re: fishy340] #912641
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This sounds like what I'd like to build.

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