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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: Pale_Roader] #909174 01/23/11 11:56 AM 01/23/11 11:56 AM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: BlakDak] #909175 01/23/11 04:46 PM 01/23/11 04:46 PM
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feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	The 3.5 HO engines were always mounted like a RWD car. The LHS and 300M used the engine in the same orientation with a transaxle mounted behind the engine. It's an all aluminum engine that would be a prime candidate for this kind of swap. You would need to run the factory computer to keep the variable cam timing and variable intake manifold operating. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: Pale_Roader] #909176 01/23/11 07:48 PM 01/23/11 07:48 PM
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340duster340 master 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY	Quote: On an odd/strange/queer/bizarre but related note... Me and an import buddy were bench racing a while back. We got to talking about the Honda s2000 when i started talking about Ford 2.3L's. Here you have a 2800lb car with a N/A 2L 4cyl engine, that makes 240HP, mated to what is an apparently amazing 6spd transmission, and RWD. I thought hey, lets put one in my Pinto. He joked and said lets put one in your Challenger... Much demented math later... 70 6cyl/3spd stick/7 1/4" Challenger... NO options. 3006lb curb weight, less the rust mine now has. Ditch the six, all the old powertrain and anything else we could think ov, drop in a 2L Honda 4/6spd, small alum shaft, keep the 7 1/4"... and then go to town on the usual ('tasteful') Jenny Craig treatment. At VERY minimum... we were looking at the s2000 powertrain in an old car that weighed the same or less. If you kept the rolling stock within reason you could theoretically expect to replicate the Honda performance...??? 13 second 1/4's, 150+ top speed, 30 mpg...??? Well, not quite. The sheer aerodynamics would prevent that, but you might get close. Maybe a 14 second 1/4, 120mpg top speed, 25mpg...??? That pretty much exceeds most Challengers if we're being honest. Now, ov course you'd have a better exhaust doing a custom swap... other mods, more weight reduction, aero mods would help especially in a low-torque combo... Things could get interesting. Not to mention the mindblown looks you'd get at a Mopar show with the sound ov a 9000rpm buzzbomb coming from under the hood ov a badass looking car... Bet with an all aluminum ricer powertrain you could get that sucker down to 2500lbs with a LOT ov steel left in the car. Anyone want to donate a car for the experiment...??? I'll send it to my buddy. I'm not touching this one... . . . i like the idea, but think a 66 dart would be better to start with, smaller, prob a little lighter. 1966 Dart GT ...down to only 1 mopar for the first time in 15 years!

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: 340duster340] #909177 01/23/11 09:00 PM 01/23/11 09:00 PM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: HotRodDave] #909178 01/24/11 12:07 PM 01/24/11 12:07 PM
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Fury Fan master F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana	Nobody's even mentioned the increase in handling & braking made possible by going to a 3.9, aluminum 3.5, or aluminum 4 cyl. 10" drums are starting to look race-ready! Has anyone seen any RWD trans adaptation for the 3.5? Anyone know if/how much different from 904 configuration?

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: Fury Fan] #909179 01/24/11 01:05 PM 01/24/11 01:05 PM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: patrick] #909180 01/24/11 02:27 PM 01/24/11 02:27 PM
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Dave_J master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,122 Auburn WA	Ok, I had a 2 door Dodge Shadow ES with a 2.5 NA and a A-520 5 speed, 3.55:1 gears. Stock it was a slug. Weighed about 2900 Lbs. But I did a few mods to it. Got Hypereutic pistons that bumped it to 9.5 and then shaved the block 0.030 and 0.020 off the head. The measured CR was 11.2:1. I then ported the head and put the middle sized valves in. Ported Iron ex manifold. Then 2.5" pipes. I had a LRE 260 Degree Roller cam. Removed the balence shafts. Deep oil pan with a windage tray. Mallory VI version of a MSD multy-spark. Weber 2v 32mm carb. Weight reduced down to 2500 LBs. It ran 14.25's if I short shifted at 4500 RPM. Got 41 MPG, 90% freeway, if I tried but normal driving it avaraged 37 MPG in mixed traffic. My 65 Cuda weiged at 2900 Lbs with a TEEN, A904 and 7 1/4 rear. On a 3.9 V6, find a 3.8 Buick Type T turbo setup and swap in on. With 4 to 6 PSI should work. I just happen to have a Type T setup for a Q-Jet 4 bbl. Put a 2.8 CRD from a Liberty in a A body... There are loads of hop-ups for this Deisel. Stroke it to a 3.1, bigger turbo....... Stock was 160 to 180 HP with lots of torque. Retired, US ARMY 1973-1994 ASE mechanic, Electrical 1994-1997 Retired GTE/VERIZON/FRONTIER 1997-2015 Posting cheap tech help (CRAP) here since Nov 97, 1000's of posts, some may be good. 03 Suzuki Burgman 650(Burger King) Scooter 65 Formula S Cuda 78 Little Red Express Truck 98 Buick Regal (wifes car)

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: Dave_J] #909181 01/24/11 03:22 PM 01/24/11 03:22 PM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: GO_Fish] #909182 01/25/11 12:02 AM 01/25/11 12:02 AM
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Dave_J master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,122 Auburn WA	Quote: I thought the Liberty diesel was a problem child?? I know that the factory torque converter was junk and the fix was to back the timing and boost down, lowering the HP from 180 to 160. Pop a TCI converter in and go for it. It would be a slow rev'ing combo. Retired, US ARMY 1973-1994 ASE mechanic, Electrical 1994-1997 Retired GTE/VERIZON/FRONTIER 1997-2015 Posting cheap tech help (CRAP) here since Nov 97, 1000's of posts, some may be good. 03 Suzuki Burgman 650(Burger King) Scooter 65 Formula S Cuda 78 Little Red Express Truck 98 Buick Regal (wifes car)

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: Dave_J] #909183 07/02/12 01:23 PM 07/02/12 01:23 PM
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demon OP super stock D Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,179 Canada	A lot of interesting ideas coming up here. I lke keeping my Mopar cars Mopar powered. My thoughts on the Dakota 4 cyl were mostly just to be different, and since the FWD cars had turbos it would be fairly easy to add the turbo to one. 92-96 Dakotas also have a nice basic wire harness and guage cluster that would swap into an A body dash easily making the wiring a snap. If I had a 93 ish 4 cyl Dakota, I could gut the truck and swap almost everything into a Dart or other A body. Any other ideas?

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: demon] #909184 07/02/12 07:37 PM 07/02/12 07:37 PM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: savoy64] #909185 07/02/12 08:08 PM 07/02/12 08:08 PM
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DARTH V8Я Oh No!! I just had a moron attack! Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,154 Its a TRAP!	Where are you guys getting these 3000lb numbers for stock a-bodies? My bare bones basic 1972 Valiant weighed in at 3300lbs with \6 & full interior with less the a 1/4 tank of fuel. When it takes more than a sweet mullet to prove you rule at the trailer park..

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: DARTH V8Я] #909186 07/02/12 08:53 PM 07/02/12 08:53 PM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: DARTH V8Я] #909187 07/02/12 11:14 PM 07/02/12 11:14 PM
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Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: RSNOMO] #909188 07/02/12 11:16 PM 07/02/12 11:16 PM
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DARTH V8Я Oh No!! I just had a moron attack! Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,154 Its a TRAP!	Quote: I had a stock '70 340 Duster... Weighed-in at 3150... K, thats pretty light. Are \6's that heavy as compared to a 340? Quote: 68 V-100, /6, 904, 7 1/4", 9" drums and rubber mats, no PS or PB was 2900. So basic 'taxi cab' kinda setup? When it takes more than a sweet mullet to prove you rule at the trailer park..

Re: Dakota V6 or 4 Cyl Into A Body Swap [Re: DARTH V8Я] #909189 07/03/12 12:46 AM 07/03/12 12:46 AM
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feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	A slant 6 weighs about 50 lbs less than a 318. This is a pretty old thread to dig up. There was a comment about the 4 cyl sprint engines. Many of them were based on one bank of an LA engine and take a single cylinder head. Those things will crank out some power! We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

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