Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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man i hear this stuff all the time i didnt know they built any thing bad or worse than any other car maker im going to say this again,, they will all go bad if you dont care for them, guys will run 150.000 miles never change fluid never check fluid, couldnt tell you where the stick is to check it,, we change are oil every 3-5000 miles never change trans fluid , life of the car,, its like we got automatical stupid here,, then after 150000 miles we have trans trouble,, MY GOD WHAT WAS MOPAR THINKING WITH THAT TRANSMISSION!!!! oooo well the insanity will never stop!! we really have come a long way tho,, we used to get rid of cars that had over 100000 miles to ,, now we are keeping cars till 200000 or more ive got a 95 neon 300000 on it no trans trouble, got 02 durango 160000 on it no trouble, got 96 caravan 200000 no prob, 99 1/2 318 120000 no prob, 94 shadow 1350000 no prob own a 99 chevey cavalier makes me walk all the time
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I hear ya............
lots of folks have the "ain't broke, don't fix/touch it" mentality with the auto trans.
Little do they realize the filter will only flow so much as it clogs with clutch/band particles. And then the heat and lack of lubrication kills it.
I do mine at 100k or when it starts to show some brown tint.
Got 3 vehicles, all with over 180k+ miles.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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i guess with a 4 wd you never pulled nothin with it ? never got stuck? never did nothing to warrent tranny trouble ? there is always' something' that someone never wants to say happen ,,happened! anything can go bad, by the nature, but to put the whole year ./ vehicle in the trash is beyond realm of reality and belief
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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Pulling hard with the lock up converters would lead to converter clutch failure. That sent debris through the system and OD would fail.
I'm not sure if the problem would go away with regular servicing or if the converter clutches were simply too weak for heavy duty use.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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For a stock truck they where all ok.. Any HP and the best one would be the 6 speed auto. Those came out what in 06?
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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My 2002 Ram 1500 with 360/auto has 278k on it and never had a lick of tranny trouble. I used to hear all the time that up through '02 the dodge transmissions were junk. I beg to differ. I do have the trans flushed about every 40k though. I'm a firm believer that's what keeps it alive. Great truck!!
I agree. Lack of tranny maintenance is the core result of most tranny failures. That's not to say that there could be the occasional runt in the bunch from the factory. I had the A727 Loadflite non lock-up in my 87 W150. I pushed, pulled, hauled and climbed with that one. Sold it with 213k on the original tranny (and regular fluid/filter changes) and it still shifted like new.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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My '00 Dakota R/T has almost 175,000 on it on the original drivetrain. (Even U-joints too) Only trouble I ever had with the trans was the little clip that holds the boost valve in broke and it started throwing a code. (140,000 miles) I took it to a local dealer and was told that "it needs a complete overhaul". I pulled the VB myself, took the VB out of a trans I bought off the Internet, and swapped them. Trans has worked fine ever since. I have raced the truck, hauled more crap than you can imagine, and pulled my race car trailer with it. I still get people telling me I better not pull the trailer in OD or it will kill the trans. I change fluid/filter every 30,000.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I'm with the believers ... my 2005 3500 CTD auto with a Reading service body (truck and tools weigh 8500) has over 150,000 on the original trans ... change the fluid and adjust the bands every 50,000 and no trouble what so ever ... oh yea I regularly (twice a week ) pull a 7500 lb trailer to and from job sites ... if you service them they last longtime
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I would remind everyone that those who have the diesel trucks and the auto that has lasted is not bombed....
Put any real hp/tq to it and it will die quickly.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I would remind everyone that those who have the diesel trucks and the auto that has lasted is not bombed....
Put any real hp/tq to it and it will die quickly.
I deleted my muffler and tweaked the pump on my 92 Cummins when the truck had 127,000 miles. The transmission started slipping in OD at 273,000 miles. When I tore it down there was nothing wrong inside. All the friction materials were in great shape and the steels had no signs of heat. There was no debris in the pan. The seals were bad. Not bad for a truck that has been raced, off roaded, jumped, used for hauling, and thoroughly abused.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I would remind everyone that those who have the diesel trucks and the auto that has lasted is not bombed....
Put any real hp/tq to it and it will die quickly.
So you mean if I make 50% more HP and torque than the factory designed it for it will not last
Thanks for the input there Captain obvious
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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Thanks Private Ryan...
What I am saying is that if you leave the older autos stock they will last..
As I said earlier the newer 6spd autos will last with the additional hp of say 150hp. The old one like you have and older will not..
So the newer trans are stronger... That is when they got better as per the question of the original poster.. I did not see him ask anyone how to maintain one...
As far as pre 2000.. I like the 47rh better than the re...
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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Pulling hard with the lock up converters would lead to converter clutch failure. That sent debris through the system and OD would fail.
I'm not sure if the problem would go away with regular servicing or if the converter clutches were simply too weak for heavy duty use.
I agree. I've overhauled a few that check valve in the trans line near the regulator became clogged. I believe it was with debris from the torque converter clutch. This blocks the return from the cooler which doubles as the lube feed for the overdrive. No lube spells disaster. Doug
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I know they had a lot of trouble with the dodge truck trans (overdrive). I am looking to buy a truck what year did they get better - if ever?
I am mostly looking at stuff before 2000
The 4 speed automatics on the 1989-2001 Ram trucks are a crapshoot. It really depends how the transmission was maintained, how the truck was driven, etc. I don't know if there was a "good year" for these transmissions. Some transmissions can last a long time and other will fail within a short period of time.
If you are concerned about transmission reliability, I would look at a 2002 & newer Ram truck with the 4.7L or 5.7 Hemi V8. The 545RFE automatic transmissions in these trucks are more reliable and tend to have a better service record than the old 4 speed automatics.
Just my
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I know they had a lot of trouble with the dodge truck trans (overdrive). I am looking to buy a truck what year did they get better - if ever?
I am mostly looking at stuff before 2000
From a dodge/GM service tech.
There never was really anything wrong with the 518 through the 48RFE. The customers just didnt want to pop them out of OD. Yes the earlie trannies had less fluid flow to the overdrive unit, but not starving it. My dads 97 Dodge 1 ton van had 285000 miles on it, he is in the floor covering business, he bought the Van with 14000 on it and when the tranny did chuck out he got it burried in a snow drift, and rocked it to sleep. So I rebuilt that tranny and the van has well over 350000 on it now and still rockin.
My 91 Dodge Cimmins has the non lock up 618 overdrive in it, and its te origional tranny at 198000 miles. It still shifting GREAT, and when I serviced it it was blood red with minimal debris in the pan. It is going to need a Kit when I get done wakeing up the Cummins, but its still fine in stock form.
I really think the whole Dodge = Crappo overdrive trannies is an overblown myth.
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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I know they had a lot of trouble with the dodge truck trans (overdrive). I am looking to buy a truck what year did they get better - if ever?
I am mostly looking at stuff before 2000
From a dodge/GM service tech.
There never was really anything wrong with the 518 through the 48RFE. The customers just didnt want to pop them out of OD. Yes the earlie trannies had less fluid flow to the overdrive unit, but not starving it. My dads 97 Dodge 1 ton van had 285000 miles on it, he is in the floor covering business, he bought the Van with 14000 on it and when the tranny did chuck out he got it burried in a snow drift, and rocked it to sleep. So I rebuilt that tranny and the van has well over 350000 on it now and still rockin.
My 91 Dodge Cimmins has the non lock up 618 overdrive in it, and its te origional tranny at 198000 miles. It still shifting GREAT, and when I serviced it it was blood red with minimal debris in the pan. It is going to need a Kit when I get done wakeing up the Cummins, but its still fine in stock form.
I really think the whole Dodge = Crappo overdrive trannies is an overblown myth.
Kasey
My 94 Cummins used to kick itself out of O/D at 70 mph in cruise whenever it felt like it, scared the crap outta me a few times, like being slammed from behind, then the torque converter used to lock and uplock and essentially 'hunt' between 1800 and 2000 rpm while driving at 70. I unloaded it for an 01 6 speed HO stick and never looked back. Any truck, IMO, that will see some real work, should have a stick, period...flame on...
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Re: What year did dodge truck trans get better
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