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Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? #900355 01/09/11 04:42 PM 01/09/11 04:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada racealittle OP pro stock
racealittle OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada	Anyone see the new episode this weekend? Apparently bought a hurt motor with very good parts for something like $450. Looks like a magnum block and crank with LA eddy heads. roller cam, etc. How do you get LA heads to oil properly with a magnum block? Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen! Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: racealittle] #900356 01/09/11 04:46 PM 01/09/11 04:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 master
RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	I was waiting for somebody to post about this, how could that be real world? paying $475 for an aluminum headed roller cammed roller rocker small block!

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: racealittle] #900357 01/09/11 04:48 PM 01/09/11 04:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,063 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,063 Niles , Ohio	I laughed when they drained the pan and said all the water that gushed out was condensation.What a bunch of rubes.Whoever sold that motor for 450 was another dummy.The heads were worth more than that.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: RV2] #900358 01/09/11 04:54 PM 01/09/11 04:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	Saw that too, must have bought it from a tweeker. Eddy heads and air gap intake, roller rockers and after market roller lifters, demon carb, comp cam and electric water pump. If it was a real deal, they done real good. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: racealittle] #900359 01/09/11 05:06 PM 01/09/11 05:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 655 Alberta R rustbuckett68 mopar
rustbuckett68 mopar R Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 655 Alberta	Wasn't there something about a neutral balancer on the engine that they had to change to an external balanced one? But I would like to know where they shop. And they reused the rings, and still made good power. Kinda funny.

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: rustbuckett68] #900360 01/09/11 05:20 PM 01/09/11 05:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada racealittle OP pro stock
racealittle OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada	I know that the show is entertainment. Most of us would have bought that engine just for the parts if it really was a legitimate sale. We also can kick around everything we saw, and pick it apart. BUT, I am pretty sure that was a magnum crank from the markings. I don't remember seeing those markings on earlier LA cranks. Someone spent big on that motor. I just want to really know about the use of LA heads/oiling, on a magnum block/? Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen! Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: racealittle] #900361 01/09/11 05:38 PM 01/09/11 05:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	You just have to use a lifter that will oil through the push rod. It was a magnum block as it was equipped for lifter retention. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: dannysbee] #900362 01/09/11 06:10 PM 01/09/11 06:10 PM
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bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	You know those shows are basically infomercials. Since when has the truth been an issue for tv ratings.

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: dannysbee] #900363 01/09/11 06:11 PM 01/09/11 06:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia RV2 master
RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,009 Covington Georgia	I will have to go back and watch the episode but I think those roller lifters had a link attaching them together, even if it was a magnum block still had aftermarket lifters.

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: dannysbee] #900364 01/09/11 06:33 PM 01/09/11 06:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: You just have to use a lifter that will oil through the push rod. It was a magnum block as it was equipped for lifter retention. magnum block...LA heads..not going to work by oiling thru pushrod... how is oil presssure going to get to shaft???? were they using eddy magnum heads maybe? since eddy magnums use stud mounted small block chevy rockers? Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: RV2] #900365 01/09/11 06:39 PM 01/09/11 06:39 PM
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Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: I will have to go back and watch the episode but I think those roller lifters had a link attaching them together, even if it was a magnum block still had aftermarket lifters. I believe they did.

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: RV2] #900366 01/09/11 06:39 PM 01/09/11 06:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada racealittle OP pro stock
racealittle OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada	Quote: I will have to go back and watch the episode but I think those roller lifters had a link attaching them together, even if it was a magnum block still had aftermarket lifters. Yes, it had aftermarket, linked roller lifters. I was told that the block would have to be drilled correctly for oil to supply the LA heads. The very few motors that I know of that have attemped that kind of oiling mod, have always had problems. I have a very good set of LA MCH cnc eddies that I would like to use on a roller cam magnum block. I am a big block guy and don't know all of the small block tricks. Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen! Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: 70AARcuda] #900367 01/09/11 06:43 PM 01/09/11 06:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada racealittle OP pro stock
racealittle OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,263 Southwestern Ontario Canada	Quote: Quote: You just have to use a lifter that will oil through the push rod. It was a magnum block as it was equipped for lifter retention. magnum block...LA heads..not going to work by oiling thru pushrod... how is oil presssure going to get to shaft???? were they using eddy magnum heads maybe? since eddy magnums use stud mounted small block chevy rockers? quote] They were shaft mount rockers and it used a traditional LA airgap intake. I was watching for those details. Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen! Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: racealittle] #900368 01/09/11 07:00 PM 01/09/11 07:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: Quote: Quote: You just have to use a lifter that will oil through the push rod. It was a magnum block as it was equipped for lifter retention. magnum block...LA heads..not going to work by oiling thru pushrod... how is oil presssure going to get to shaft???? were they using eddy magnum heads maybe? since eddy magnums use stud mounted small block chevy rockers? quote] They were shaft mount rockers and it used a traditional LA airgap intake. I was watching for those details. Probably was a 89-91 360 pre-magnum block that has the lifter retention ...spider and dogbones...but still uses the LA cylinder heads with shaft rockers... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: 70AARcuda] #900369 01/09/11 07:08 PM 01/09/11 07:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 377 Michigan Troll B blk00rt enthusiast
blk00rt enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 377 Michigan Troll	the block had the holes for a crank sensor on it, it was also black originally which makes it a magnum block right? Rob Dunn 1976 Dart Sport 360 2000 dakota RT 408 with 150 nitrous 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 2009 Jeep Patriot

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: blk00rt] #900370 01/09/11 07:12 PM 01/09/11 07:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Did the TBI engines use a crank sensor back there? We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: blk00rt] #900371 01/09/11 07:12 PM 01/09/11 07:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	i have two 91 LA blocks that take roller lifters..both have the mount for the crank sensor...just went and looked at them.. both are MP 360 crate shortlbocks.. Last edited by 70AARcuda; 01/09/11 07:14 PM. Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: blk00rt] #900372 01/09/11 07:15 PM 01/09/11 07:15 PM
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GO_Fish master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland	No, early 90's (and late 80's?) pre-magnum engines were black also. Scott B. "I'm a self-made man... I started with nothing, and I still have most of it!" 68 360 rusty B'cuda 'vert (GO Fish)13.59@ 98.72 mph 69 340 GTS stock 14.18@ 95.60 mph 01 5.9L Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 01 3.5L 300M 16.23@ 86.97 mph

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: GO_Fish] #900373 01/09/11 07:19 PM 01/09/11 07:19 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	Quote: No, early 90's (and late 80's?) pre-magnum engines were black also. so because they were not painted black they are not pre-magnums...? so went i painted my 91 pre-magnum block blue it is no longer a pre-magnum?...LOL Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Horsepower TV 360 budget build show? [Re: feets] #900374 01/09/11 07:20 PM 01/09/11 07:20 PM
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onebadstepside mopar O Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 526 orange,tx	I thought the engine was built several years ago for their project barracuda....No way they bought that engine for $450. Small blocks rule!!!!!

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