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Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886380
12/29/10 07:12 PM
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HMMMMMM well it seem you have opened a can of you know what now everyone want to know why you like this cam over this one and so on man i just don't get why some can't let other make there own minds up.?? But i bet after you answer someone will not like it.!






Something just got my attention on this thread , from what i can gather the OP likes the 509 due to the reliability & not having to bother messing with lash settings................well , i ran a 605" 68 charger on the street with a solid roller 288/294 , this motor was driven to the track , put through it's paces & driven the 130 miles back home , made over 10k street miles & probably still going strong (sold it) , had bundles of fun with this car on the street & not much would touch it when it hooked , just saying you don't need to run hyd cams for reliability............couple guys on this thread have asked why the OP does'nt like the cam he is running , the answer was he does'nt like the noise , correctly set up there should'nt be any 'noise' , just trying to help the OP out that's all.


Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: 602heavy] #886381
12/29/10 07:16 PM
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Anyone running the old school 3/4 race cam?

Re: I know its old school but it works well.! 292/509 cam [Re: 67coronetman] #886382
12/29/10 08:46 PM
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Old school tech is really cool but the reason the newer cams are so much more popular is TQ and drivability for a given performance number. For example most of the fast cars with .509 cams are running 3000 stall converters and 4.10 or lower gears, the newer faster rate cams will run just as fast but can do it with 3.55 gears and 2500 converters. They will also get better MPG and idle better, if you want a crappy idle you just order it with a little tighter LSA and still get more TQ MPG and need less gears to run the same or better ET.

I have used the .509 cam in motors I have built but the guy is running a 340 with 4.56 gears a tunnel ram and wants to turn 7000 RPM and does not care about a specific HP or ET he just wants a crappy idle and lots of RPM potential and a high rate of lift cam will make more power but not have the RPM potential, he just wants to see a high number on the tach with a hydro flat tappet cam


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Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: 67coronetman] #886383
12/29/10 11:47 PM
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DID I NOT TELL YOU IT WOULD START IT .!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO JUST WANT'S TO MAKE THERE POINT.!!

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886384
12/30/10 12:28 AM
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No one is trying to keep anyone from makeing up there own mind, only trying to provide information so people can make a more informed decision they will be happier with, peolpe like you are the ones keeping others in the stone age, if they want to be in the stone age that is fine as long as they know there is better stuff out there. I think a lot of people just like the mopar cams because they say mopar on the box, now if mopar started reboxing comp XE HL cams or Hughes engines cams then those same people who swear by the .509 .484 .557 cams would overnight take a likeing to the "new" mopar cams, they would hail them as great mopar developments, even icons just because it says mopar on the box, exactly like how the SCAT cranks bring so much more when they are in a mopar box instead of a SCAT box. Just because you chose a mopar boxed cam does not make your engine any stronger than an equal engine with a different cam, probably the opposite is true, if every one jumps on and says the mopar cam is the best cam ever and no one tells him the truth no matter how much he may get for saying it, then we are not provideing him a usefull service and moparts should just shut down.


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Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: HotRodDave] #886385
12/30/10 12:56 AM
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Well I have used a 509 for about the last 20 yrs its a good cam I don't know if its the best. Must be a 509 fan club in Tn. I'am a 3/4 race cam man myself and its my choice to run it.

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886386
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DID I NOT TELL YOU IT WOULD START IT .!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO JUST WANT'S TO MAKE THERE POINT.!!




You have all of 6 posts & every one of them on this thread , go crawl back under that log.

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: 602heavy] #886387
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WOW THAT IT HIS PRIDE OH POOR BABY DON'T LIKE IT THAT OTHER CAN MAKE THERE OWN CHOICES WHEN IT NOT WHAT YOU LIKE "" OH YES I FORGOT YOU ARE THE GOD OF ALL MOPAR THINGS IF YOU WHERE AS GOOD AS YOU THINK.?? YOU WOULD BE WORKING ON A TOP FUEL TEAM LOSER.! LOOK I AM PLAY THIS FOR YOU.!

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886388
12/30/10 09:58 AM
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Hey guys common this is getting out of hand i should have never posted this how could a simple question get people so upset it was meant to help inform others and see if they like what they have or not we don't need to be mad at each other.
So if he like a different cam it ok we all the that right.!lets not fight among us.


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Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: 67coronetman] #886389
12/30/10 10:29 AM
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I might have missed it but what solid is in there now? And you do know you will have to set and re-adjust lash on your hydro cam as well if you are going to use the same rockers.

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886390
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welcome 2 moparts wedgehead u the man

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: 71Pan] #886391
12/30/10 01:55 PM
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I REALLY DO WANT TO THANK ALL YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AND INFO ON OTHER CAMS THAT HAVE WORKED GOOD FOR YOU AND FRIENDS.
TO ANSWER YOU ALL MY SOLID LIFT CAM IS A COMP CAM DURATION @ .020 IS
INTAKE 284 EXHAUST 292
DURATION @ .050
INTAKE 254 EXHAUST 262
LIFT INTAKE IS 540
EXHAUST IS 559
AND I AM RUNNING INDY ROLLER ROCKER ARMS 1.6


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Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886392
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WOW THAT IT HIS PRIDE OH POOR BABY DON'T LIKE IT THAT OTHER CAN MAKE THERE OWN CHOICES WHEN IT NOT WHAT YOU LIKE "" OH YES I FORGOT YOU ARE THE GOD OF ALL MOPAR THINGS IF YOU WHERE AS GOOD AS YOU THINK.?? YOU WOULD BE WORKING ON A TOP FUEL TEAM LOSER.! LOOK I AM PLAY THIS FOR YOU.!



Man, you really are a jerk. Whats with the "All CAPS" deal? Are you too lazy to UNclick the caps lock or are you trying to OVEREMPHASIZE your blowhard style? Try using LESS crank. You will sleep better and come across as LESS of an acehole.

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: Kern Dog] #886393
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WOW THAT IT HIS PRIDE OH POOR BABY DON'T LIKE IT THAT OTHER CAN MAKE THERE OWN CHOICES WHEN IT NOT WHAT YOU LIKE "" OH YES I FORGOT YOU ARE THE GOD OF ALL MOPAR THINGS IF YOU WHERE AS GOOD AS YOU THINK.?? YOU WOULD BE WORKING ON A TOP FUEL TEAM LOSER.! LOOK I AM PLAY THIS FOR YOU.!



Man, you really are a jerk. Whats with the "All CAPS" deal? Are you too lazy to UNclick the caps lock or are you trying to OVEREMPHASIZE your blowhard style? Try using LESS crank. You will sleep better and come across as LESS of an acehole.





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Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886394
12/31/10 11:19 AM
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"" OH YES I FORGOT YOU ARE THE GOD OF ALL MOPAR THINGS IF YOU WHERE AS GOOD AS YOU THINK.?? YOU WOULD BE WORKING ON A TOP FUEL TEAM LOSER.! LOOK I AM PLAY THIS FOR YOU.!




Sorry to have dissapointed you , will try harder in future , been offered to help out in the pits next season , wish me luck.

Have a wonderful new year , great posts so far keep it up.

Re: old school 292/509 Cam what performance did u get.? [Re: wedgehead426] #886395
12/31/10 12:22 PM
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Hey wedgehead its ok man relax you don't need to get so worked up let it go just do what you want and don't start getting all crazy people are just trying to help with advice.

Serious let's all have a great new year and be safe in 2011 and have fun with your street/strip cars thanks again for everone input.


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