Look i know we all have our likes & dislikes that's ok
** But mopar made a great cam in the 292/509 its a great street cam and with the right heads headers & so on i have seen B-Bodies run mid 11 and still drive around town with full interior so lets hear what you have.!

So that is what i am planning on doing to my 1966 plymouth satellite. I have all the right things to make this car scream.! it now has a solid cam from comp i hate it.!

** SO TELL ME YOUR COMBOS WITH THIS 292/509 CAM IN A 440 MOTOR AND HOW IT RUN AT ITS BEST TIMES.!
Here is a video of my car.!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLMuETuCen4

easy enough, although low low 12's are probably more like.
10:1 440, ported iron or Alum heads, RPM intake 850DP, Headers, good ingnition system, 3800 stall, good shifting trans and 4.10's should get you really close to 11's and still decent on the street. Advancing the cam can help get you some bottom end as well. Of course better heads, more compression, expensive convert, will help even more.

oh and I had a .030 over 383 11:1, ported 915 heads, 509 cam (straight up), Torker II 750DP, 1 7/8 headers, MSD, 3800 stall 4.56's in a 68 Dart ran 11.86 w/ a very bad trans.

Had a dart with 440 that went 11.70 with 509 cam, 410 gear, and 3500 turbo action. Converter is key with the purple series.

I agree totally i am going to run the boss hog 3200-3600 stall i have with 3:91 gears that are already in the car.! I already have heads Indy Sr so flow will be no problem.!

I had a '69 Super Bee 4 speed car that I put a 440 in with the "purple shaft" .509" lift/292 duration cam and .030" over 12.5 to 1 TRW dome top pistons......you could get 101 octane at the pump at that time and it still wasn't enough. it didn't make a lot of vacuum for the power brakes but BOY, it went like a raped ape!

I am lucky i don't have power brakes so i am good.! I have a friend that had this combo in a B-Body and his best time was 11:68 on street tires.

Oh yes mine is still 10.5 compression.!

girl down in Shreveport has a nice orange RR w air grabber hood, 440 six pack with the 509 in it, she was running mid 11s on slicks with it.

not sure the rest of the build though...compression, etc. but it was a stock stroke 440, 6pack motor.

If you really like this cam, I suggest you get a Racer Brown SSH 44. The MP 509 cam was a near copy or the SSH 44. Before there was Direct Connection or the later Mopar Performance the Mopar race bulletins recommended Racer Brown cams and many of the Purple shafts were in fact copies of Racer Brown designs. The advantage of getting the "real" 509 cam from Jim Dowell at Racer Brown is that he will custom tailor it to your combination. He will give you the LSA best suited to your car and also grind in the best advance for you. I've dealt with Jim in the past and have always gotten good service and sound advice.

Advance it 2-4 degree's makes a better idle and better low end

My 68 Roadrunner had a 440 with 10 to 1 pistons 906 heads with 4 speed and a RPM intake with a Demon Carb and headers. It ran awesome , I loved that set up !!!!!!!!!!!
Only problem I had was I wiped out a lobe on it .
I would build another just like it and plan on doing just that in a year or so .
Dave

Why do you hate the Comp Cam solid lifter set up thats in there currently?

Yea i alway advance my cams for the low end torque.! thanks>!

Sweet i look into that have a great day.!

I got one for you guys.! ?? i have a general kinetics cam i have one for a big block with almost the same profile as a 292/509 cam.!

Way to much noise for me and i really don't think the streetablity is as good.! But that is what i think and like others may think different.!

I run the MP .557 solid cam in the 440 in my 63. The .509 is almost like a hydraulic version of the .557. Anyway my 440 is a stock bottom end with KB pistons that come out to 10.0 comp with the 906 heads I use. I have run 11.49 in my 63 and it is street car I drive everywhere including to and from the track. The .509 will scream in the right setup for a hydraulic cam. Ron

That's what i am saying i have a solid lift comp cam now i just don't like a solid cam they make more noise than i like. plus my years of racing cars and street cars i just like a hydraulic cam better it seem to be more street friendly.!

Back in the late 70,s Direct Connection did a back to back test with a bracket car between the SSH-44 and the MP 509.

The results were

SSH-44 1.621 60ft. 11.95, 1/4 @ 115.18

MP 509 1.621 60ft. 11.82, 1/4 @ 116.61


I agree with you that the following MP cams were copies of the designs that Racer brown came up with. If my specs are correct the SSH-44 actually had less duration then the MP 509. Witch, would indeed make it a better street cam then the 509.


As far as the 509 goes, it can be a screamer with the right combo, as well as some of the other MP grinds. mike