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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: six-barrel] #885813
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This year I picked up a new set of "day 2" rims & tires for the Charger. I wanted to pick a wheel/tire combo that was a bit different than most & wouldnt break the bank.

They are 15x8 Cragar Eliminators with 4.5" BS

I chose the M/T Sportsman ST's to be different from the BFG norm.
They are 245/60/15 in front and 295/50/15 in the rear. So far they are a real nice riding tire (about 2k on them this season)





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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: 1MYTGTX] #885814
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Firehawks are some of the best tires I have run in that price range. Run-out is usually under .015" with them.

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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: Crizila] #885815
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I really think I might spend the little extra and go with the Sportsmans.... Now I just need to work out tire size, which I'm once again starting to worry about!

Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: Crizila] #885816
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Quote:

Firehawks are some of the best tires I have run in that price range. Run-out is usually under .015" with them.




I've been very pleased with the FS Indy 500s on my DD Astro 5-speed...good in the snow, too.

Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: In_The_Pink] #885817
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I've currently got some old firestone 205/70/14s on standard magnum 500 rims. The 205/70/14s should have a section width of about 8", on a 6" rim. Any idea what the rim size and back spacing is on standard Magnum rims, I'm guessing 15x5 or 15x6?
No idea what the backspacing would be though?

Oh, and I've got 2" clearance each side of the wheel....


Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: Damned67] #885818
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I know that many people run the Radial T/As, but IMO they are for looks only. Hard compound and some of the worst tires in the rain I've ever had. Unless they've changed them I would stay away. I don't know much about the others, but used Cooper Cobras were actually a major improvement on my Satellite.

Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: FK5] #885819
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Further pictures for Jason.
(sorry guys, couldn't figure out how to attach a picture to a PM, so here they are)

1st: tire to wheelwell lip. About 1-1/8". It gets a little tighter up inside, however, depending on your ride ht. (see previous picture from this angle).


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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: StealthWedge67] #885820
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2nd pic: inside of wheelwell (man, I gotta clean this thing). It looks like about 1-1/2" here, but I wouldn't count on using all of that. You can also see here how much is to be gained by mini-tubbing into the frame rail.


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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: StealthWedge67] #885821
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Here's the look you get with a 245/60-15. 255's would obviously fit. Like I said before, 245/70's would look great. 275's are a chancy proposition, they'll fit with the perfect backspacing and ride ht, but real world around corners and such, I think it would rub on a pretty regular basis (at least on my car).



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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: StealthWedge67] #885822
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One last perspective. Thanks for the excuse to get the beast fired up and out of the garage.


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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: StealthWedge67] #885823
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Those 245/60/15s look nice.

Cooper-Firestone-MT....looking at all three websites, the Firestone site certainly gives you a LOT more information about the tire and it's construction than the other two.


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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: DynoDave] #885824
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Gary, thanks once again for the pics and info.

Quote:

1st: tire to wheelwell lip. About 1-1/8". It gets a little tighter up inside, however, depending on your ride ht.




Quote:

The section width on the tire in the photo (Dunlop GT Qualifier, 245/60/15) is reported to be 9.6" on a 7" rim.
The Sportsman 255/60/15 is reported to be 10.25" on a 7.5" rim. Accounting for the difference in the backspacing, the Sportsman on a 7.5 rim would, indeed, sit ~0.6" closer to the lip. How much would an 8" rim change the section width?




Based on the two above quotes, a 255/60/15 would leave me with ~0.5" between the wall and wheel well lip, I'm not sure that's not cutting it too close?

Plus, your 245/60/15s do look very nice in there... It's a safe, viable option.

Then there's 235/60/15. The Mickey thompson site lists them as being only 0.3" narrower in the section width and 0.5" shorter diameter compared to the 245. And for some reason, the 235s are $110 cheaper per pair from the tire supplier I'm looking it.

They're not an ideal choice, but the savings are hard to ignore for relatively small changes in tire size....

Choices, choices, choices.....


Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: Damned67] #885825
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Well, I pulled the trigger, so to speak.
Dropped my well-earned $$$ (?) on a set of Sportsman S/Ts (and a pair of MT ET streets).
Also bought the rims today as well. They tires are going on these puppies...

Should have them all next week, just need to try and source some RH thread wheel studs... which will be interesting over here in Oz!

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Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: Damned67] #885826
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Friggin' SWEET! Don't source RH lugs, just change your studs (any shop can do it quickly and inexpensively, especially if you do the dis-assembly).

Can't wait to see the pick when it's completed!

I'll respond to your PM shortly...

Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: 79powerwagon] #885827
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The indy 500's ride nice,

Re: RWL tires: Radial T/A vs Firehawk vs Sportsman S/T? [Re: ademon] #885828
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