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Felpro valley pan fiasco #880353 12/14/10 11:59 PM 12/14/10 11:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 733 Northern Virginia Moparmaniacc OP super stock
Moparmaniacc OP super stock Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 733 Northern Virginia	I tried to order a Felpro 1214 (383-400 valley pan with crossover blocked). Jegs sent me one - I opened it, and the crossover wasn't blocked. I sent it back and asked for the right one. They worked with Felpro and determined somehow that Felpro made a mistake and there are dozens of them out there like this! They opened all the ones they had and every one had the same problem! They couldn't find a correct one to send me so they refunded my money. If I try to order one locally I'll probably find the same problem! Any ideas?

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: Moparmaniacc] #880354 12/15/10 12:05 AM 12/15/10 12:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I'd try another vendor - the local parts store or Mancini. They may have a lot with correct configuration.

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: Moparmaniacc] #880355 12/15/10 12:07 AM 12/15/10 12:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,995 s. e. pa. C calrobb2000 top fuel
calrobb2000 top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,995 s. e. pa.	hi call felpro and tell them the problem and ask them to send the correct one to summit for you or direct to you !

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: Moparmaniacc] #880356 12/15/10 12:10 AM 12/15/10 12:10 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 475 HEMPSTEAD TX C CUUDAK mopar
CUUDAK mopar C Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 475 HEMPSTEAD TX	There should have been 2 blockoff pieces made of the same material in the box!! SRT8 CHARGER "Four door bore" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: ahy] #880357 12/15/10 12:12 AM 12/15/10 12:12 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	If your pressed for time you could solder in a piece of sheet metal onto the valley pan to cover the heat riser opening(s). Just make sure you dont fab something too thick which'll hold the intake up. Not likely but just a heads up live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: CUUDAK] #880358 12/15/10 12:23 AM 12/15/10 12:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,970 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,970 U.S.S.A.	Quote: There should have been 2 blockoff pieces made of the same material in the box!! Never seen one like that , I have that gasket and it's solid across the heat riser port.

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: JohnRR] #880359 12/15/10 12:33 AM 12/15/10 12:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Quote: There should have been 2 blockoff pieces made of the same material in the box!! Never seen one like that I did, way back (decades) & I'm thinking it was Felpro but wouldn't swear to it and might not even be available live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: RapidRobert] #880360 12/15/10 01:02 AM 12/15/10 01:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	This sort of stuff actually happens! I read that Mopar Performance had a run of Big Block camshafts that were incorrectly labled and shipped. Imagine that you buy a 440 Magnum resto cam and end up with a 528 solid. Who takes the time to actually measure cam lobes? How many guys degree in their cams?

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: RapidRobert] #880361 12/15/10 01:36 AM 12/15/10 01:36 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 475 HEMPSTEAD TX C CUUDAK mopar
CUUDAK mopar C Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 475 HEMPSTEAD TX	Quote: Quote: Quote: There should have been 2 blockoff pieces made of the same material in the box!! Never seen one like that I did, way back (decades) & I'm thinking it was Felpro but wouldn't swear to it and might not even be available Yep! Felpro... I purchased one a couple of years ago from Napa. Could have been old stock?? But it did have 2 pieces that plugged the heatriser ports. SRT8 CHARGER "Four door bore" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: CUUDAK] #880362 12/15/10 01:56 AM 12/15/10 01:56 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada D dirtybee super stock
dirtybee super stock D Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 807 Toronto, Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: There should have been 2 blockoff pieces made of the same material in the box!! Never seen one like that I did, way back (decades) & I'm thinking it was Felpro but wouldn't swear to it and might not even be available Yep! Felpro... I purchased one a couple of years ago from Napa. Could have been old stock?? But it did have 2 pieces that plugged the heatriser ports. i got one of those about 2-3 years ago, and the plates that come with the valley pan are way too thick. lucky my current heads don't have the heat crossover.

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: dirtybee] #880363 12/15/10 02:01 AM 12/15/10 02:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	cut 2 pieces out of your old valley pan. It'd be the right thickness and the right material live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: RapidRobert] #880364 12/15/10 02:09 AM 12/15/10 02:09 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 475 HEMPSTEAD TX C CUUDAK mopar
CUUDAK mopar C Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 475 HEMPSTEAD TX	Quote: cut 2 pieces out of your old valley pan. It'd be the right thickness and the right material Agreed!! SRT8 CHARGER "Four door bore" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: CUUDAK] #880365 12/15/10 03:00 AM 12/15/10 03:00 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida Golden-Arm I Live Here
Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	why not just seal the hole in the block, with some jb weld, or plastic steel, and be done with it? then, it doesnt matter what gasket comes out of the box... "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: Moparmaniacc] #880366 12/15/10 10:06 AM 12/15/10 10:06 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: (Jegs)...worked with Felpro and determined somehow that Felpro made a mistake and there are dozens of them out there like this! I just ran into the same problem at Summit with a Zoom clutch kit. The model Zoom I ordered was supposed to be diagphram P.P. and I received a 3-finger. They opened all their inventory - same thing. Hat's off to Summit for immediately rectifying the problem no questions asked, but, it was an extra hassle I didn't need.

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: dirtybee] #880367 12/15/10 10:58 AM 12/15/10 10:58 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA H HPMike master
HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: There should have been 2 blockoff pieces made of the same material in the box!! Never seen one like that I did, way back (decades) & I'm thinking it was Felpro but wouldn't swear to it and might not even be available Yep! Felpro... I purchased one a couple of years ago from Napa. Could have been old stock?? But it did have 2 pieces that plugged the heatriser ports. i got one of those about 2-3 years ago, and the plates that come with the valley pan are way too thick. lucky my current heads don't have the heat crossover. That was a Mickey Mouse deal offered through Mopar Perfomance some time back. Useless as titts on a bull. MB

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: HPMike] #880368 12/15/10 12:06 PM 12/15/10 12:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,065 Niles , Ohio	Mike FelPro made them with the 2 pieces also.I had one and returned it and got the one with the blocks made into it.I even had one that had the plates made into it that came with the 2 pieces also in the package.They are probally laying around here somewhere.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: ahy] #880369 12/15/10 01:28 PM 12/15/10 01:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 253 Orange County, CA M Mike H enthusiast
Mike H enthusiast M Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 253 Orange County, CA	Just curious, what is the purpose of blocking the heat crossover passages?

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: Mike H] #880370 12/15/10 01:32 PM 12/15/10 01:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,916 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,916 Grand Prairie,Texas	It keeps the intake cooler for better fuel mix.

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: stumpy] #880371 12/15/10 05:06 PM 12/15/10 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931 P Paul_Fancsali master
Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	If you run the car at all in cool weather or on the street I would leave it open. Cars run better warmer then too cold

Re: Felpro valley pan fiasco [Re: Moparmaniacc] #880372 12/15/10 05:31 PM 12/15/10 05:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	You could always just have a small plate WELDED INTO the crossover port.

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