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Re: Which would you do? Stroker vs. 5.7 hemi?
[Re: ledft79]
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12/02/10 11:15 AM
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Twin Cities, MN
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I think it all boils down to, do you want to put highway miles on it, or do you want to put 1/4 miles on it? Where is your heart at with this car?
No 1/4 miles. Maybe stop light to stop light  but mainly car shows and cruising around town but like I said, mpg's is not an issue, the fun factor is! Oh, and money could be a factor also so think somewhat towards budget.
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Re: Which would you do? Stroker vs. 5.7 hemi?
[Re: MN-ScatPack]
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12/02/10 12:47 PM
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Grand Haven, MI
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Well those are exactly the responses I was looking for. I am not going for 700hp, rather a fun, reliable and snappy ride. I really don't care much about mpg's as this is strictly a "fun" car, not a daily driver (except to work on all nice days, work is only a mile away from home).
So, now that I'm leaning towards the 400 stroked, tell me how you would build it.
What kit?
How many cubes?
Heads?
six pack? dual 4's? efi? single?
others?
estimated price (roughly)?
I hope this is not asking to much and I'm sure answers will be all over the place, but would be nice to get a bunch of opinions. Again, don't care about high hp, lets just build a fun motor that doesn't break the bank!
personally, for a snappy, quick cruiser I'd go with a 5.7 or 6.1 with an upgraded cam. 400-500 HP is easy with decent manners and probably still getting 20mpg on the highway.
tranny, I'd maybe check out the new passon 5 speed.
since the car is already set up for a big block, what about keeping the 400 but NOT stroking it? AndyF made ~580HP with aroller cammed, eddie headed, stock stroke 400 running an RPM air gap intake and 800 eddie carb about 4 or 5 years ago. maybe he can pipe in with the combo details, or search the race section for 580HP 406...
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Re: Which would you do? Stroker vs. 5.7 hemi?
[Re: MN-ScatPack]
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12/02/10 01:13 PM
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Kelowna, B.C. Canada
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451, Eddy or MP Alum Heads, 10:1, RPM Air Gap, not too wild on the cam. headers or HP manifolds depending on personal preference and hp expectations and finish it off with a good 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust system and low restriction mufflers. For your stated use, the 400 stroker is definitely the way to go with the biggest advantage of the 5.7 being mileage.  + Dave
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Re: Which would you do? Stroker vs. 5.7 hemi?
[Re: MN-ScatPack]
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12/02/10 01:57 PM
12/02/10 01:57 PM
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Irving, TX
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Build a snappy 400 or if you must stroke it, do a 451. Those are common enough that parts are readily available with reasonable prices.
Skip the ported heads. You want to keep the port velocity high for cruising. Forget the guys that say you need 638 cubic inches and a 12.7" lift cam with 836 degres duration.
A set of Edelbrock heads (or similar) would do the trick. Find a cam around .500 lift with moderate duration and you can still use the stock valvetrain. It will make plenty of power for what you need.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
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Re: Which would you do? Stroker vs. 5.7 hemi?
[Re: dezduster]
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12/02/10 03:27 PM
12/02/10 03:27 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Yes build a 408 small block. I like the little package big bang effect. Light weight = better handling better stopping,oh and with my 422 small block 11.1 stock eddies and a hughes flat tappet hyd cam my duster was getting 20 mpg at 70mph. Keisler 5 speed and 3.23 gears helped.
again, to equal the torque and HP of a BB you'll need to spend many more dollars in order to get the numbers out of a SB. It's not going in a little and light A-body. It's going into a heavy E-body.
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Re: Which would you do? Stroker vs. 5.7 hemi?
[Re: MN-ScatPack]
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12/02/10 03:28 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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So engine builders, what kind of ballpark figure am I looking to have this 400 turned into a 451 from carb to pan with eddy heads?
$4000? $5000? $10,000?
Depends on who is doing the work and how much stuff you can buy used. I think they sell complete 500ci for around 5k. So if you have some of the parts and can do some of your own work I don't see why you can't do it for under 4k.
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