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Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: Triggerfish] #85889
07/09/08 01:54 PM
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For those who think they "have" to have a dual-pattern cam I suggest reading Isky's tech article about dual-pattern cams, if it is still on their website.

There are applications for both types of cams, as well as the dual-pattern with the longer duration on the intake side. If the engine has an efficient exhaust port and exhaust system then the longer exhaust duration may be wasting power. This was discovered by some Mopar dirt-trackers when the 308 heads came out.

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Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: dogdays] #85890
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For those who think they "have" to have a dual-pattern cam I suggest reading Isky's tech article about dual-pattern cams, if it is still on their website.

There are applications for both types of cams, as well as the dual-pattern with the longer duration on the intake side. If the engine has an efficient exhaust port and exhaust system then the longer exhaust duration may be wasting power. This was discovered by some Mopar dirt-trackers when the 308 heads came out.

R.


good point.
any of the engle grinds can be can be had in dual pattern; just call them. they have a "blue sheet" with additional grinds that they will mail you if requested.

Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: Triggerfish] #85891
07/09/08 03:00 PM
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My 69 RR has been running an Engle cam since it was practically new. I still have the hand-written cam card which I will try to post tonight. Idle is good with just the right amount of music...pulls strong with a wide power band.

Nothing like old school!


Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: bschargerse] #85892
07/09/08 04:19 PM
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I notice they only sell one dual pattern cam on their website for BB Mopars, and it's a smaller one, bummer. I prefer a dual pattern cam, for some odd reason.



Most of the stuff they grind is after discussing the requirements w/ the owner, not their "catalog" grinds which they probably don't even bother to stock. Specifying a d-p vs. a s-p ain't no big thang...

FWIW, I've had good luck in the past running a couple of their .904"-type solids in my Challenger and currently have one of their .904" hydraulics put aside for my Road Runner. My Challenger currently has a custom Comp solid, though.

The only down side w/ Engle IMO is that they're using some pretty old grinding equipment and they seem to have a problem grinding the same exact cam back to back. None of the cams I've gotten from them have actually matched the master lobe specs when I've mapped their profiles. They're always off 1-3 degrees (usually on the big side) at the .020" and .050" lift measurement, although it's a small enough amount that Joe Average isn't going to know the difference.

I also suspect which ever of the Engle brothers (Mark or Doug) generally answers the phone spends a bit too much time behind the shop on breaks smokin' them funny smellin' cigarettes. The dude always comes across a little too buzzed to hold a serious tech discussion.

Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: BradH] #85893
07/09/08 04:56 PM
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Way back in 1975 i was stationed in the service in Northern california.

I had a honda cb450 motorcycle, and to my good fortune some guy in my barracks had a b5 blue 69 340 swinger..took me a while to see him getting in the car to see who owned it.

long story short we swapped even up ...he told me the factory cam was shot...i took him at his word and installed an agressive engle hydralic grind and a set of headers on an otherwise stock 90, 00 thousand mile 4 speed 3.23 geared car...to this day i still cant believe how well that car ran..wish i still had it.

30 something years ago engle rocked, i bet they still do


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: Triggerfish] #85894
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Here's the cam card...Probably 1970 ??

4541319-sv401892.JPG (499 downloads)
Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: B3422W5] #85895
07/10/08 08:26 AM
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Mayb e try here for dual pattern Mopar cams designed for .904 lifters.

http://www.hughesengines.com/partResults.asp?eTypeID=14&pType=CM

Re: Opinion of Engle cams? [Re: Triggerfish] #85896
07/10/08 11:48 PM
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I have one in my 340. I love it. Runs great at low rpm and pulls strong. When I ordered mine 4 years ago there were no cams for mopar on the shelf is what I was told. Cams were made to customers specs. I sent some deer jerky down and got is in a week with a free t-shirt.Was very happy to deal with them. Will buy my next cam for my stroker from them also.

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