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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: jbc426] #858397
11/22/10 12:23 AM
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I went there too & wasn't very impressed... If I could find the female socket connectors that would plug into the original headlight plugs I'd be inclined to build & market a properly designed drop in kit....

Actually I just went to Ebay & there are some that look reasonable..
Four light system...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-Relay-...3#ht_1213wt_691

Two light system
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-Relay-..._Truck_Parts_Ac





You're kidding right? Those ebay set-ups don't even come close to these US made ones from Suvlights. For only $5 more than the Chinese ones, take a look at the features on the Suvlights harnesses and compare then to the picture of Chinese ones you've listed.

Suvlights harness:
2 OEM Bosch/Tyco AMP (Potter & Brumfield) or equivalent 50 amp relays (single & dual 87 outputs)
Heavy Duty interlocking relay sockets with mounting tab
Fusible link (slow reacting fuse protection) & separate fuses (fast reacting) with 12 gauge heavy duty automotive wiring
Black split loom matches OEM to protect against heat and elements
Male connector(s) to plug into existing headlight socket
(2 or 4) new heat resistant headlight sockets (depending on application)
The Heavy Duty models are 14 gauge (can power a pair of 130 Watt bulbs) while the Super Heavy Duty model is 12 gauge and uses 4 relays.

Here's a pic of the ebay ones complete with 30 amp Chinese relays and yellow wire looms? Are they even fused?




So where on the site you linked did that exist? All I saw was generic stuff designed to scotch-loc in place... The only reason I grabbed the Ebay listed harness was it is designed as plug n play.. Which the one you just link also does... But it wasn't easily found on the page you linked..

Ok I looked again.. Thats nice written text but the $25.00 harness pictured is designed to be used with scotch-loc connectors..

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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: jbc426] #858398
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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #858399
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I'm sorry for being a smart azt, 1 Wild RT. The headlight harnesses are listed under headlight wiring harnesses section, just keep clicking on the picture of the harness and you'll get there. I can't find the scotchlock harness you're referring to, but that doesn't sound good to me either.

Oh, I found it, but that's for fog or driving lights only.


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1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: 05dakota] #858400
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stock blubs, 74 cuda and 70 challenger


Give them a call and they should be able to give you the correct one.


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: jbc426] #858401
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John, when you get your parts please post pictures.. If the harness is plug & play I know quite a few people that would be interested.. & I'm hoping it is a good part.. The description sounds good, the picture doesn't look encouraging..

Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #858402
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It's supposed to be a decent one. I found the vendor here on Moparts. Some folks were happy with the quality etc. I'll get some pics posted of them once their here and installed.

I may break down and get a new M&H harness for the front lights etc from Mega Parts. If so, it will be after Turkey day. I'm out in the garage putting in an M&H rear light harness now, between Moparts sessions that is. The quality and authenticity of the M&H harnesses is outstanding!


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: jbc426] #858403
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www.rallylights.com

IF your stock wiring is known to be in good shape AND you are using relays, you don't need to do much upgrading in my experience. I've used Hella H4 E-code conversion headlamps on my '77 B-200, '77 Aspen wagon, '90 Astro and '83 Toyota 4x4 pickup with no issues.

I've found the 55/60W versions offer plenty of light, too, and Suquehanna (see link above) has a great description of why E-code (Europoean light pattern) lenses are superior to U.S. DOT lenses, which I agree with.


Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: In_The_Pink] #858404
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If you convert to H4 bulbs, a 9003 will have a better pattern.

After cleaning or replacing connectors and its still dim, check the condition of your floor dimmer switch.


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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: Dave_J] #858405
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everyone should go to this site and read. He has a P.H.D. and is known as the "lighting Guru",......... Of course, he also sells what he preaches, but the read is worth it. I opted for the E-code lights (European standard, MUCH better than DOT in light quality, focus, cut off, etc. and has higher standards than DOT) but the car is not on the road yet A relay system with redundant relays which uses the factory harness only as the trigger, is the BEST way to approach the lighting issue.

Todd

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/


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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: Todd_DesMarais] #858406
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I don't think he's a PHD, but he does know his stuff.


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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: Supercuda] #858407
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I still run the old Ehrenberg aircraft landing lamps

Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: CRE2004] #858408
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Dan Stern sold me a complete upgrade setup for my demon. It has the cibie (spell?) housings, replaceable bulbs, ceramic plugs, and relays. My headlights are awesome and not in anybodies eyes. They're not blue or Honda civic tuner looking either. You can usually find him on the slantsix.org board.
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Re: Brighter headlights? [Re: radar] #858409
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There's a lot of high quality lighting education on his site, and he has one stop shopping for excellent parts to build your own harnesses.


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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