572 hemi in a street car
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I have been looking at getting a 572 hemi for my 73 cuda that is going to be a street car with a trip to the track every now and then. Any thoughts on if this will be too much motor for a street car? Gas milage obviously isnt a concern, I just dont know if this will be something that will do nothing but sit there and spin whenever i want to get on it and be useless without a pair of slicks. Was considering maybe a 528 hemi too. Car currently has a 340 that i built for it. Any thoughts?
1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip,
(JA5) Silver Frost Metallic
1973 Challenger Rallye 340
1985 W150 Power Ram prospector
1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: AndyF]
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11/16/10 09:55 PM
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it depends how it's built, what gears are in the rear, and how hard you drive. i have a daily driver 572 hemi in my 72 road runner. low compression, single plane indy intake and still makes 500 lbs torque at 1500 rpm. if you drive it reasonably it gets around 14mpg on the highway. you have to ask yourself what exactly you want and build accordingly.
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
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11/16/10 11:29 PM
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From a 340 to a 528/572 Hemi is quite a step. Have you had cars with that kind of power before? Do you have the suspension and drive train that will handle that kind of power? If not set up right, then the car could be a real handful. Or even dangerous. I personally have had big blocks all my life. Driven and raced them for 30 years. A few years ago I built an Eddie headed 500" stroker. It is a different animal altogether. Even now, with a good suspension set-up, it can break the tires loose at 45 mph if I am not careful. Things happen very fast with this level of power. And you will probably have even more horsepower given the additional inches and the fact that it's a Hemi. If possible, you may work your way up to that kind of power a little at a time. That way, you your drive train and your suspension can get up to speed.
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: kielbasa]
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11/17/10 02:14 PM
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it'll have a little more than the 340, maybe not night and day, but noticeable.
a little more? i be afraid if it hooks hard the windshield would pop out,and break the seat back...lol..
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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11/17/10 03:52 PM
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Broken windshields and wrinkled quarter-panels....ahhh, the price we pay for performance. There's an old saying, "Speed costs money, son. How fast do you want to go?"
Is bigger always better?
I was going to build a big old 550+ cubic inch sixpack motor, but decided to just build a little 493 inch motor because of the above mentioned items. As it is, it puts out close to 700 horsepower at 5500 rpm, and I'm still worried about those things.
I had to spend a lot of money upgrading all the links in the chain to handle that horsepower level, fuel system, ignition system, exhaust, driveshaft, subframe connectors, and Cal-tracs. With todays DOT legal drag-radial tire technology, hooking up is going to be possible, but tire life short.
Something to think about when deciding....One time I had a 500 horsepower 440" 'Cuda do an nearly instantanious 180 degree rotation at 45 mph when I popped the clutch it in 2nd while punching it. My buddy still talks about that to this day. We spun out onto the freeway backwards in a cloud of smoke. Got lucky that day. I never had that car do anything like that in the hundreds of times I'd done that before. Note to self, be f'ing careful with big horsepower.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: 73cuda340]
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11/17/10 04:58 PM
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I have been looking at getting a 572 hemi for my 73 cuda that is going to be a street car with a trip to the track every now and then. Any thoughts on if this will be too much motor for a street car? Gas milage obviously isnt a concern, I just dont know if this will be something that will do nothing but sit there and spin whenever i want to get on it and be useless without a pair of slicks. Was considering maybe a 528 hemi too. Car currently has a 340 that i built for it. Any thoughts?
I guess I don't see the need for all of that. If you just want a cool street car why not a 426 or 472? As mentioned all that motor is going to require some serious mods to get it to stick. Why not do a blown hemi for that matter?
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
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As we've stated above, big horsepower can get you in trouble real quick, you really have to be aware of the conditions and surroundings. The very first time I drove my truck with the 528 under the hood I darn near killed myself. -25F., I decided it would be safer to run it up to 70 before nailing it. It instantly started spinning the tires, I used up both lanes and shoulders before I could get it straightened out enough to get off the throttle. The biggest problen as I see it though is...you get used to the power pretty quick and then want more. That's the main reason I bought a Dyno, the need to find more hp. Horsepower....more addictive than Heroin. Dave
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: quickd100]
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How is everybody else hooking up with their cars and the hemi's?
1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip,
(JA5) Silver Frost Metallic
1973 Challenger Rallye 340
1985 W150 Power Ram prospector
1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: Keith Black®]
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11/24/10 12:44 AM
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How is everybody else hooking up with their cars and the hemi's?
We run a couple of Hemis on pump gas, and getting the rest of the car to survive them is usually the biggest issue. The little 477 pump gas street Hemi in the Charger has killed 4 rear ends, 1 drive shaft, a set of brakes, 10 wheel studs, and a set of leaf springs, and a set of seat brackets....That little engine has pushed the 4010lb Charger to 11.1 at 122mph and a 1.58 60ft...
My 484 Hemi in my Cuda has killed just about everything from kinked quarter panels to inner fenders torn off the frame rail, to crushed oil pans, crushed headers, cracked window glass, de-arched leaf springs, broken pinion snubbers, and a gawd aweful amount of rear tires....Should go 9's, but I always break somthing.
A 572 will do all that and more I am sure...
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: Keith Black®]
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11/24/10 11:34 PM
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What times are you guys running?
1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip,
(JA5) Silver Frost Metallic
1973 Challenger Rallye 340
1985 W150 Power Ram prospector
1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: 1962Savoy]
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11/25/10 08:06 AM
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Hey Zapp I just had Tim @ FHO build me a 572 wedge that puts out 750 hp for the street!!!! OH YA I'm STOKED!!!!!!
In the Savoy that will be cool, Tim was awesome wish I had more money to spend with him and Id have thought about a blower and injection, maybe next time(dont tell my wife)
DarrenB that thing looks cool. Ill be at MoparRumble hope to see some cool Hemi cars to give me a kick in the pants on mine...
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: Zapp]
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11/25/10 11:15 AM
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Hey Zapp I just had Tim @ FHO build me a 572 wedge that puts out 750 hp for the street!!!! OH YA I'm STOKED!!!!!!
In the Savoy that will be cool, Tim was awesome wish I had more money to spend with him and Id have thought about a blower and injection, maybe next time(dont tell my wife)
DarrenB that thing looks cool. Ill be at MoparRumble hope to see some cool Hemi cars to give me a kick in the pants on mine...
Ya Tim knows his stuff thats for sure! I wont tell your wife but if you need me to hide you a blower give Tim a call and I.ll pick it up for ya and hold on to it!
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: Keith Black®]
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11/25/10 11:18 AM
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How is everybody else hooking up with their cars and the hemi's?
This is my street car build. I'm expecting around 1100 ft/lbs, 1,500hp.... this is the rear setup. I have zero expectations of hook up.
WOW!!!!! If it wont hook up how you goin to get to the gas station??? silly boy! I always say go big or go home but my wallet wont allow 1,500 HP
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
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11/25/10 08:04 PM
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What times are you guys running?
10.63 on motor 10.10 on a 175 shot 4000# 3.73 gear foot braking
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Re: 572 hemi in a street car
[Re: CRE2004]
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I also believe you can make it streetable...as stated earlier you will need the other components....diff....supports throught the car..sounds like a cage car if its going to the track...its going to be a 10 sec or 11 sec car at least.....I dont think you will break a million things just taking it down the road.....that will result from hard launches and fast breaking from 100 plus MPH.....just driving and getting on it in a fluid motion is different then hammering the pedal looking to hook up
73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust 73 Cuda - Triple Black 340 4 speed MIKE
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