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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: cornet684me] #850880
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i really do not have a major problem, i have replaced all the bulbs, while driving down the highway all the interior lights are fine, the problem is at idle, the interior lights get kinda of dim, however asap when i go back to driving again everything is fine, it is more a personal thing , i do not like the dim lights at idle, so what everyone is saying, the best fix will be changing out the alternator?




Another basic question..
What is the idle RPM?
The lower this is, the less voltage the alternator will put out..

Just my $0.02...

Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: Sinitro] #850881
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Good stuff. Clean all connections including grounds esp the bulkhead in/out or better yet Nacho's simple 2 wire bypass. 78 amp squareback from late 70's iirc (maybe 80's). attach stereos etc to the alt side w relays including the headlights. If want to bypass the ammeter run an 8ga from alt to starter relay protected w a 12ga fusible link and also a FL at the alt output. there's 2 sizes of alt pulleys & I would use the smaller one


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: RapidRobert] #850882
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there's 2 sizes of alt pulleys & I would use the smaller one




I have a squareback alt with a double pulley (78A I believe). The pulley diameter is 3" at the outermost edges. Is there a smaller one available? (Mine has trouble with the headlights at idle, ~750rpm).


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: hooziewhatsit] #850883
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When I was diggin thru my stash I saw 2 sizes but didn't measure either one but I would think yours unfortunately is the smaller one. EDIT pic is much larger (posted) than what it shows on my computer. You can see which one you have

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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: RapidRobert] #850884
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Apparently no one uses relays on the headlight circuit anymore... The charging system mods are good I'm not arguing that.. But adding headlight relays means the majority of the current to the headlights never sees the bulkhead & the current to the dash lights is suddenly not drawn down by the head light load... Also very beneficial for the heater blower on high speed..


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #850885
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hey Randy, what are you talking about with adding a relay? how wld this be done?
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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: RapidRobert] #850886
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i have the one with the smaller dual pulley

Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: Junky] #850887
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thanks for all the info Junky, looks like i have decision to be made, i think i am going to try to 1wire 1st and maybe the relay before i go to a full blown mod,

Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: cornet684me] #850888
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adding relays made a HUGE difference on my car with the brightness of the headlights. my stock dash lights always flickered a bit, but i don't recall how they acted after adding relays and now i run aftermarket gauges.


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: cornet684me] #850889
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Typically I install a pair of standard Bosch 40a relays in front of the radiator yoke on the drivers side... Open the headlight harness & identify the power wires from the bulkhead to the high & low beam headlights... These are now going to be the control leads for the relays connect them to terminal 86 of each relay.. Add ground wires to terminal 85 of each relay... run a couple 12 gauge wires from the main terminal to terminal 30 add a 20 amp fuse to this wire & finally hook the headlight feeds up to terminal 87 keeping the high & low beams tied to their original feed.... Basically the relays act as the switch carrying the whole load, the original switch & wiring only carries the approximate 300ma load required to trigger the relays.... Adding the same to your blower motor means the blower switch no longer carries the load which often burns out the switch and the blower motor spins quite a bit faster...

Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: RapidRobert] #850890
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When I was diggin thru my stash I saw 2 sizes but didn't measure either one but I would think yours unfortunately is the smaller one. EDIT pic is much larger (posted) than what it shows on my computer. You can see which one you have




D'oh, looks like I have the tiny one already. Thanks for posting the picture.


For the headlight relays, my relays came with a plug that holds the wires. I found that the female spade connectors Napa sells for the bulkhead connectors will slide in and lock in place. This mean I have no actual splices in the install.


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: hooziewhatsit] #850891
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Found a diagram in my photos....


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: hooziewhatsit] #850892
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so you did not have splice into the wires?

Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #850893
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randy, is this a pic of the 40a rely?

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thanks Randy, you read my mind , a visual is worth a thousand words, i think i can tackle it now with a diagram


Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: cornet684me] #850895
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randy, is this a pic of the 40a rely?




Randy, I accidentally linked the wrong photo... The relays you want can be had at any car stereo/alarm store.. Get the relay harness too...

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thanks Randy, i will post update once i get everything installed, i have so many loose ends, feels like i am coming up with something new everyday that needs to be fixed, finally got my car on the road, everyday i find something else that needs attention! i am so thankful for MoParts.com and all You Guys helping me put the old girl back on the road




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so you did not have splice into the wires?


Well, yes and no. My relays came with a plug with 12" of wire coming off them. Instead of splicing that in, I used a tiny screwdriver to pop those connectors out, then cut into the harness, crimped the Napa spade connector on, and slid it into the plug. So the wires from the harness go directly into the plug to the relay.


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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: hooziewhatsit] #850898
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hopefully i can do this too,
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Re: Dim and Bright lights in the dash [Re: cornet684me] #850899
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Another good idea, I put mine under the battery tray. Can't even tell with the battery installed.


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