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Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? #848773
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I am looking to build a good running 383 for my Superbee and was wondering if there is any links on what people have done without spending way too much. I want it to run good, be reliable and at least run mid to low 13's. This is just a street car though. Also any good shops for it here in SE MI. Thanks!

Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: BeeFreak] #848774
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Even a stroker build sounds cool if it isn't too costly.

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Latest hemmings muscle machines has a stroker build article by Dudek , but it's not that cheap .

There is an article in mopar muscle tech archive by dulcich , just ignore the inflated HP numbers .

What's your budget ?

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Not sure on the budget. Can you do a stroker in the 3k or less range?

Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: BeeFreak] #848777
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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html



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Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: BeeFreak] #848778
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Not sure on the budget. Can you do a stroker in the 3k or less range?




I don't think you could unless you got the crank rods and pistons for free .

Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: Mopar Ron] #848779
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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html

That is a cool article. Thanks!

I guess I should list a few things I have Already.

I have the complete stock 70 383 Hp Engine that needs rebuilt.
A Weiand dual plane Aluminum intake
750 Holley DP Carb
Mopar Electronic ignition

I have seen these advertised for about 2k. Anyone use one or know of someone that has?

383 >> 438. (3.75" stroke/6.760" rod) Approximate Bobweight: 2100

This kit takes a 440 crank and rods, and stuff's 'em into a 383. The result is a 438. This one's a high revving screamer (just like the factory 383's were - but our parts are light years ahead of the old factory stuff,) with all new parts capable of 1000+ horsepower. The low deck, 3.750" stroke version of our Platinum Series crank used in this kit has the counterweights finished at the smaller "B" engine size, to ensure they will drop right into the block with no counterweight clearancing issues. Depending on the block used, many of customers find this kit drops right in with no modifications whatsoever! We now offer fully chamfered "B" engine main bearings as an available upgrade! We keep all the kits listed below normally on our our shelf and ready to ship, usually within 24 hours!

Additional Kit options:
Upgrade to I beam rods and/or ARP2000 rod bolts: $70
Upgrade to Chamfered "B" engine main bearings: $50


383 >> 438. (3.750" stroke/6.760" rod) Stroker Kits Available:
Bore Size: Dish (-) or Dome (+) CC's Compression Height: Distance Below Deck: 65CC 72CC 75CC 78CC 84CC 86CC 88CC Kit Part#:
4.280"
(.030 over) -4
(Flat-top) 1.320" -.025" 11.45 10.65 10.34 10.06 9.53 9.37 9.22 383.438.5040
4.310"
(.060 over) -4
(Flat-top) 1.320" -.025" 11.58 10.78 10.47 10.18 9.65 9.48 9.32 383.438.5050
4.280"
(.030 over) -20
(Dish) 1.320" -.025" 9.79 9.22 9.00 8.78 8.39 8.27 8.15 383.438.5042
4.310"
(.060 over) -20
(Dish) 1.320" -.025" 9.90 9.32 9.10 8.89 8.49 8.37 8.25 383.438.5052



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Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: BeeFreak] #848780
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PM John he'll tell ya.
really for 13's it shouldn't be that hard. You'll need some compression, decent heads, headers, good intake/carb (read no EDDY 750) Maybe a cam like the Mopar 528 solid along with a 2800 stall and 3.91's... very easy 13 second combo.


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Car is a 4spd with 3:55's

Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: Mopar Ron] #848782
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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html








This is the article , just take the HP numbers with a grain of salt , time that was done that dyno was known to be giving out INFLATED numbers .

Re: Is there a good link on a 383 build on here???? [Re: JohnRR] #848783
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i did one a few years ago - 3.23's and a 4 speed :

kb 400 pistons

stock rebuild on the heads

crane cam 4.80 lift intake 494 lift exhaust - I cant go to the web site anymore for more specs..lol

anyway other then those 2 changes the rebuild was stock and it ran mid 13's @ 104 in an E body.

Keep in mind it needs to be blueprinted, the deck heights and head volumes need to be corrected.

here are 2 vids of the car in action

At the track

In the car VID

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Ha, that was cool. Thanks for sharing! Sounds like headers on the car. Do you feel like they are needed? I have always had so many problems with them in the past.

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the in car vid was with manifolds

the track vid was with the tti full exhaust system.

it picked up .2 in the quarter with the new exhaust system

I guess my point is you should fall over a 13.5 timeslip with a good compression rebuild.

the TTI's are easy to install - one guy can do it with ease.

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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html








This is the article , just take the HP numbers with a grain of salt , time that was done that dyno was known to be giving out INFLATED numbers .




Regardless, the delta vs the bone stock engine dyno'ed on the same machine serves as useful information. My 69 Coronet ran 13.20's with a stock magnum 383 with bolt on torker, 750dp, and headers. 3.91's and 8" cheater slicks with a 3000 stall.


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That seems fast for a stocker with minor bolt on's in a b-body. Seems more like what a 440 would do. No headers either?

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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html








This is the article , just take the HP numbers with a grain of salt , time that was done that dyno was known to be giving out INFLATED numbers .




Tell me more, RR John. Maybe if your EMC engine would have actually run you could have had some first hand experience on said dyno... but it failed and you chumps never had the guts to try again. Well, anyway it saved you being embarrassed by my smoking your azz.

In usual fashion, you are basing your comments on nothing. The engine made about 335 hp stock, about its rated HP.
-dulcich

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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html








This is the article , just take the HP numbers with a grain of salt , time that was done that dyno was known to be giving out INFLATED numbers .




Tell me more, RR John. Maybe if your EMC engine would have actually run you could have had some first hand experience on said dyno... but it failed and you chumps never had the guts to try again. Well, anyway it saved you being embarrassed by my smoking your azz.

In usual fashion, you are basing your comments on nothing. The engine made about 335 hp stock, about its rated HP.
-dulcich




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not sure if this is what your looking for but here is a pretty good 2 page read 450 HP ain't to bad Ron...


http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html








This is the article , just take the HP numbers with a grain of salt , time that was done that dyno was known to be giving out INFLATED numbers .




Regardless, the delta vs the bone stock engine dyno'ed on the same machine serves as useful information. My 69 Coronet ran 13.20's with a stock magnum 383 with bolt on torker, 750dp, and headers. 3.91's and 8" cheater slicks with a 3000 stall.




I don't want to bring out the BS meter but bone stock? as in a 383 cam, stock from the factory pistons, heads and all you did was add a convert (huge help) headers, intake carb and gears? 13.20? Is that corrected?
I had a built 383 w/ real 10.5:1 compression, balanced blue printed engine, ported 915 heads, 509 cam, 3200 stall, torker, 3.91's and a 750DP in a 69 Charger and the best et I saw was 13.11 @ 104..granted I was on BFG's but 13.20's w/ just bolt ons is really good.


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Years ago Andy Caldwell ran low 13s with a pure stock blueprinted 383 in a 4000 lb 70 Super Bee.

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