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yea but if your talking about cuda (ebody) parts the market is there..
i have a guy here in georgia that does LOTS of first form pieces for road race teams and
i am sure he could do them...if he isnt too busy.
and again..for a cuda iam sure there is a return on the investment greater than the average race car..
ill post his link.
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To make sure we are on the same page, there are really 2? kinds of CF, the real high tech CF high temp oven baked vacum bag F1 stuff, and the typical resin/epoxy CF cloth reinforced matrix. I think you are talking cost wise about the latter. It is not to tough to do, and after a visit to AAR Fiberglass in Melborne, Fla, the owner years ago said he would do CF on any of his existing molds at an upcharge. However, there is not a great deal of weight savings, only more cost, increased flash factor, tougher to repair, with some increase in stiffness, allowing some/slight reduction in thickness. The F1 stuff is what you want, but can't get, 
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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the guy iam talking about is vacume formed kiln baked...
i took a 6" piece about 30" long and jumped up and down on it...
it was stiffer than a 2x6 and i weigh 221 lbs.
its a honeycomb center matrix section..the stuff he makes..
plus they squeegee out the extra resins..
he said..the fabric sometimes is hard to get..but the resin is the expensive part..(for the real stuff)
pretty awsome stuff..he does cockpit interiors and air spoilers for BMW,MAZDA,and some GM stuff.
road race cars..bread and butter.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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11/05/10 08:59 PM
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i dont have a wallet.
YA gotta have a decent "wallet" to do what you do !!
I would suggest that you empty the FE and the doors of ANYthing not fiberglass and then see what you have.
BTW ...what does the car weigh now?
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i wouldnt say i am up on it... but a hood for my car ..with real c/f process is a grand..he quoted/threw out when i asked him. thats why i dont have one...  but i can tell you that a complete bm3 3 series dash..(it wraps down past the radio and almost to the shifter..fwiw.. feels like it is helium ballons...almost like it could float away.. its not a structual part..so its as thin as the cardboard on a cereal box..and sharp as a razor. and the cool part is ..the color after being molded has the factory texture and looks remarkably stock once in the car..(blackish grey that is...)fwiw. a bumper would be less...i am sure... this economy hasnt afforded me the ability to source c/f for my car. but maybe some day.? i will also say..with hoods..you have to watch if you have a coil or coil wire or even sparkplug wires touch it ..it can cause grounding issues.. and he has shown me holes (looks like bullet holes) from where chunks of tire rubber hit a defuser at speed..its remarkebly stong..but not bullet proof..the honey comb in that application...single layer honeycomb like a defuser uses..is rigid in only a few axis.. for true stuctural parts.. he criss/crosses the pattern with double or multiple layers if and when mulitple stress axis are needed..like compression or sheer forces..fwiw. fwiw... cheapst
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Me KIDDING ....NOT on this topic ...  And if your really READ what I had to say ....I did not say their stuff was "junk" .. just heavy. I say again .. they probably make the HEAVIEST race-car-parts on the planet !! And the WEIGHT SAVINGS ? ... LOOK at what the OP will spend and go through on hopeful weight reduction.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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11/06/10 12:58 AM
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AAR is THE BEST fiberglass out there...
WHAT A JOKE! Obviously you havent bought one of there ( twisted ) front Dodge Challenger bumpers.
And then try to get your money back!
And he tells you thats the way they are. 
Oh ya, Anyone want to buy a bad front Dodge Challenger bumper?
Can you post pictures of it?
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11/06/10 01:29 AM
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Took it to many shops and they all said to fix it, it would take lots of cutting and new glass work.
Pass. side fits the fender cut out perfact.
AAR said its from pulling it out of the mold, nothing can be done.
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11/06/10 01:31 AM
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believe me, it cant be shimmed.
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11/06/10 01:55 AM
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Got a friend here in Phoenix, who is amazing with fiberglass, he runs a chop-top 61 falcon Wagon, and the only part that is steel is the roof..made all the F-glass quarters, doors, bumpers, front-end himself. couple of years ago he experimented with the cheap style CF, and dropped the weight of his hood from 20 to 11 lbs...so I'm confused when I hear you say the weight savings is minimal??
He made the hood, and sculpted the hoodscoop on for my Challenger's Unlimited frontend...far lighter and stiffer than the unlimited piece.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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11/07/10 10:53 AM
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believe me, it cant be shimmed.
I`ve fixed those types of problems before.
Take it off and put some heat to it. 
I use a propane torch,when its hot enough it starts to smell and smoke,hold it in the correct position till COOL.
May take several tries and may have to go past square and let it return after cooling.
May need repainted when done tho,It MAY blister the gel-coat and or paint.
I`ve fixed hoods,scoops,and even doors this way.
Never had one go back later once its fixed.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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i wouldnt say i am up on it...
but a hood for my car ..with real c/f process
is a grand..he quoted/threw out when i asked him.
thats why i dont have one...
...I'd pay a grand for a C/F 62 dart hood with a tall M/W scoop, if it would bolt to stock hinges & work with light springs. The next problem would be shipping cost/damage. fwiw.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Yo kid .... for a BOLT ON hood .... try DOUBLING that figure ..  
...I was told ~3k last time i asked ~3-4 yrs ago.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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...I'd pay a grand for a C/F 62 dart hood with a tall M/W scoop, if it would bolt to stock hinges & work with light springs. The next problem would be shipping cost/damage. fwiw.
Not sure if the first problem is the grand, the 62 dart, the MW scoop, stock hinges or light springs. Shipping cost/damage is pretty far behind IMO 
And I'll have what your having 
...  ...I'm "having" a day dream, about night racing, in the middle of the afternoon. 2k don't sound to bad either, compared to 3.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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i agree aar is the best,but they wont make it custume!
Did you read his post??? AAR is by far NOT the best, and quite possibly the worst producer I have seen
As far as Carbon Fiber is concerned another major issue with it is that it is not as forgiving (doesn't flex as much before it breaks) as 'Glass and is harder to repair.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Doc...for you to have "fiberglass" in your handle, you don't seem to up on current composites. A full body, for a pro-mod type car these days, made of glass, high quality glass, is still nearly 300 pounds. A high quality Carbon body, for that same car, from Hairy, McAmis or any of the other top composite shops, will weigh about 70lbs and cost you 8500-10,000. That is a "complete" body.
As for what parts weigh. The hood on our drag radial Buick, is a nice piece, from Glastek, weighs about 25lbs. The entire carbon front end, with the titanium tree, on the pro-mod car, weighs 12 lbs.
Carbon Fiber, is also much more durable and more flexible that regular fiberglass. I have a sheet I bought from McAmis, to make some door panels and gauge panels. You can fold the stuff double and it does not crack.
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I have a flat sheet of carbon fiber that we used as a hood. it cracked and no one can tell me how to repair it. It is just a flat sheet with strip of styrofoam laid onto it for support , It cracked at those supports
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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When we had to patch parts on the funny car we fround down some on the bad spot and just layed carbon back over it.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Doc...for you to have "fiberglass" in your handle, you don't seem to up on current composites.
As for what parts weigh. The hood on our drag radial Buick, is a nice piece, from Glastek, weighs about 25lbs. The entire carbon front end, with the titanium tree, on the pro-mod car, weighs 12 lbs.
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Monte
Come on now Monte .... to be TECH correct ....CF is not fiberglass. And I am NOT up-at-all on CF. And honestly ...I don't care to know any-more than I do. WHY ? ...because how many regular people can afford it ?
Some here are talking about THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR hoods ? HOW times have changed !! I used to be beat-up by the price-shoppers comparing my stuff to that JUNK PLACE from CA. THAT DEAL alone was a major factor in me idling production at my shop.
A 25 lb hood ? ... Glastek did you no favors ... ... IMO - it should be HALF that weight. That whole CF FE ? ...why wouldn't they put that together with a MAG tree?
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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i agree aar is the best,but they wont make it custume!
Did you read his post??? AAR is by far NOT the best, and quite possibly the worst producer I have seen
As far as Carbon Fiber is concerned another major issue with it is that it is not as forgiving (doesn't flex as much before it breaks) as 'Glass and is harder to repair.
bottom line:
A-C F is nearly impossible to find
B-it's not worth the extra cost per pound saved
C-the extra weight saving over good race weight glass is minimal at best
D- servicability questionable
Not in my plans
We have a CF front end/hood on our Outlaw car. The hood collapses at speeds over 190. By the time we got it braced to prevent this it weighed almost as much as a F/glass unit.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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looking for nose, doors for my 70 cuda in carbon fiber any ideas thanks 
i don't know anything about CF but you have a very nice car.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Kinda funny how this thread has gone completely full circle IMO.
Anyway to the OP, I suggest you re read the entire thread, your answer is buried in the details, which is, if the cheap CF version is Ok for you at an increase in price, anybody that makes FG doors can make CF doors, the question is are they willing to.
And to the AAR quality comments, I and I think many many others would go on record as stating AAr is the best, but not perfect, and customer service is spotty, but overall out the door quality very hard to beat. Sorry anybody has had a poor experience with them, but i will use them again.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..
IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....
.... THERE you go ! 
...Are you talking strong enough to work with stock hinges?
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Re: carbon fiber body parts?
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Kinda funny how this thread has gone completely full circle IMO.
Anyway to the OP, I suggest you re read the entire thread, your answer is buried in the details, which is, if the cheap CF version is Ok for you at an increase in price, anybody that makes FG doors can make CF doors, the question is are they willing to.
And to the AAR quality comments, I and I think many many others would go on record as stating AAr is the best, but not perfect, and customer service is spotty, but overall out the door quality very hard to beat. Sorry anybody has had a poor experience with them, but i will use them again.
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..
IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....
.... THERE you go !
...Are you talking strong enough to work with stock hinges?
WOULD you like it painted TOOOO ? ...
SURE ... but no springs .
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THIS topic being in the race-section .....and talking about CF ...and then bringing-up AAR ..... ... YOU GUYS need to get-out more often.
GET OUT and look at the good race-stuff ....and the BESTest name-in-the-biz is mentioned here. If their race-stuff was compared to AAR ... it would be like comparing that-junk-place in CA to AAR's finished product.
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..
IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....
.... THERE you go !
...Are you talking strong enough to work with stock hinges?
WOULD you like it painted TOOOO ? ...
SURE ... but no springs .
...If you insist.
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Sorry To answer the Poster.I have a Guy in Indy that can build the real deal stuff.He has done a hood and fenders for me about 6 years ago.He does alot of Indy car work.The hood was $1,200 and fenders were $2,000 but Damn was light.Could hold the hood up with 2 fingers.
...Is his name Mike...
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Sorry To answer the Poster.I have a Guy in Indy that can build the real deal stuff.He has done a hood and fenders for me about 6 years ago.He does alot of Indy car work.The hood was $1,200 and fenders were $2,000 but Damn was light.Could hold the hood up with 2 fingers.
Huh ? ...
You just said earlier that Glasstech was the best race-stuff .. now this ? ...
TWO fingers ? .... why sooo heavy ?
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And Mr Dick Fiberglass get a new hobby!!!!!!!
My newest HOBBY is to point-out confused people ... like you !!
So which company is it ? .. the one with the real deal(but with the heavy stuff) ... or the one with what you claim-to-be that has the best race stuff ? 
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(3) The real deal carbon is out of this world price wize.
I could elaborate more than this babbling, but stick with this above comment.
Take it from a car designer that has designed composite supercars cars, last 2 I worked on were on the cover of Road & Track last year. The only way it is feasible would be if you sold about 50 or more parts to get your money back of the investment.
The cost is not just the material to make the part, it's the cost to make patterns and molds. Very, very expensive (most expensive method is tooling block and carbon fiber molds, needed for high volume and quality parts). I'm guessing, but even just a couple layers of prepreg 400 GSM 2x2 twill, it'll be around $5k just for the material to make the front end without the cost of the mold and patterns. We manufacture composite parts using an autoclave, which is a vacuum, pressure, and heated controlled process that can take between 4 to 8 hours to make a part.
Ther are cheap methods to manufacturing carbon fiber parts, rather than an autoclave, it's called a wet lay-up, using an epoxy resin. This cheap wet lay-up process does not have the same stiffness as parts make in an autoclave. Sort of like laying up fibreglass. The problem with wet lay-ups is that the material doesn't consolidate, it's not cured under pressure like prepreg autoclaved parts, has a crappy finish, lots of porisity, and you still need to make a mold, which can be made out of fibreglass. This cheap process would still probably cost several thousand, and in the end you have heavy wet lay-up carbon parts that doesn't have much of a structural advantage over fibreglass.
I can go on and on regarding this subject... any questions about it, let me know. The company I work at has been doing this for a long time, heck even all the Lemans winning Dodge Viper GTS-R carbon fibre body parts were done by our shop for Oreca, along with Daytona Prototype cars, FIA F1, GT2/3, and all sorts of supercars and race boats, etc...
Cheers,
Mike
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i also know a funy car body weights 106lb with out the wing and cost ya $10,000 but thats all one peice. 
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