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Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: W.I.N. Racing] #846741
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did u read the other post?? i know from my i repeat MY experience w my 74 dart AAR FIT PERFECT!!

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: Monte_Smith] #846742
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Doc...for you to have "fiberglass" in your handle, you don't seem to up on current composites.

As for what parts weigh. The hood on our drag radial Buick, is a nice piece, from Glastek, weighs about 25lbs. The entire carbon front end, with the titanium tree, on the pro-mod car, weighs 12 lbs.
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Monte




Come on now Monte .... to be TECH correct ....CF is not fiberglass. And I am NOT up-at-all on CF. And honestly ...I don't care to know any-more than I do. WHY ? ...because how many regular people can afford it ?

Some here are talking about THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR hoods ? HOW times have changed !! I used to be beat-up by the price-shoppers comparing my stuff to that JUNK PLACE from CA. THAT DEAL alone was a major factor in me idling production at my shop.

A 25 lb hood ? ... Glastek did you no favors ... ... IMO - it should be HALF that weight. That whole CF FE ? ...why wouldn't they put that together with a MAG tree?

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: HEMIFRED] #846743
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i agree aar is the best,but they wont make it custume!



Did you read his post??? AAR is by far NOT the best, and quite possibly the worst producer I have seen
As far as Carbon Fiber is concerned another major issue with it is that it is not as forgiving (doesn't flex as much before it breaks) as 'Glass and is harder to repair.




bottom line:
A-C F is nearly impossible to find
B-it's not worth the extra cost per pound saved
C-the extra weight saving over good race weight glass is minimal at best
D- servicability questionable

Not in my plans




We have a CF front end/hood on our Outlaw car. The hood collapses at speeds over 190. By the time we got it braced to prevent this it weighed almost as much as a F/glass unit.

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: BobR] #846744
11/10/10 02:17 PM
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I do know a couple things, everything I have ever seen from AAR has been junk. Glasstek has made the nicest stuff i have ever seen. Magnesuim is not strong enough to make a tree out of and keep it small. and carbon fiber is the baddest shi% there is. If glass was better, or equal than they wouldnt need carbon fiber...

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: joshking440] #846745
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Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: dOc !] #846746
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My brand X pro stock chassi got all body parts in carbon fiber except for the rear quarters.
I believe all CF are made by Hairy glass, and the quality and fit is excellent.

All parts are very light weight.
Without engine and trans, I can lift the front wheels of the ground with one hand. Thatīs without the front CF on.

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: dOc !] #846747
11/10/10 05:40 PM
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Some here are talking about THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR hoods ?

...That was a Quote, & that's as far as it went!

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: thehemikid] #846748
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..

IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....

.... THERE you go !

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: 7sec.cuda] #846749
11/11/10 07:42 AM
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looking for nose, doors for my 70 cuda in carbon fiber any ideas thanks





i don't know anything about CF but you have a very nice car.

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: 7sec.cuda] #846750
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Kinda funny how this thread has gone completely full circle IMO.

Anyway to the OP, I suggest you re read the entire thread, your answer is buried in the details, which is, if the cheap CF version is Ok for you at an increase in price, anybody that makes FG doors can make CF doors, the question is are they willing to.

And to the AAR quality comments, I and I think many many others would go on record as stating AAr is the best, but not perfect, and customer service is spotty, but overall out the door quality very hard to beat. Sorry anybody has had a poor experience with them, but i will use them again.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: dOc !] #846751
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..

IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....

.... THERE you go !




...Are you talking strong enough to work with stock hinges?

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: jcc] #846752
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Kinda funny how this thread has gone completely full circle IMO.

Anyway to the OP, I suggest you re read the entire thread, your answer is buried in the details, which is, if the cheap CF version is Ok for you at an increase in price, anybody that makes FG doors can make CF doors, the question is are they willing to.

And to the AAR quality comments, I and I think many many others would go on record as stating AAr is the best, but not perfect, and customer service is spotty, but overall out the door quality very hard to beat. Sorry anybody has had a poor experience with them, but i will use them again.




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Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: thehemikid] #846753
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..

IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....

.... THERE you go !




...Are you talking strong enough to work with stock hinges?




WOULD you like it painted TOOOO ? ...

SURE ... but no springs .

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: B1KILLER] #846754
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THIS topic being in the race-section .....and talking about CF ...and then bringing-up AAR ..... ... YOU GUYS need to get-out more often.

GET OUT and look at the good race-stuff ....and the BESTest name-in-the-biz is mentioned here. If their race-stuff was compared to AAR ... it would be like comparing that-junk-place in CA to AAR's finished product.

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: dOc !] #846755
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(1)AAR is simple the straighest and best fitment.Some times just as heavy as the steel part.The Gelcoat will always shrink 100%
(2)GlassTek is the best race parts.They have built me some carbon parts but not much lighter.There gelcoat is much better.
(3) The real deal carbon is out of this world price wize.
(4)The worst I've used is WS and Unlimited.I throwed a hood from WS in the $hit can.Not even fixable.
You guys can take this for what it is!!!I have only painted and installed about 40 AAR hoods,rollpans,bumpers,fenders and about 25 from GassTek.

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: 8secDart] #846756
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Sorry To answer the Poster.I have a Guy in Indy that can build the real deal stuff.He has done a hood and fenders for me about 6 years ago.He does alot of Indy car work.The hood was $1,200 and fenders were $2,000 but Damn was light.Could hold the hood up with 2 fingers.

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: dOc !] #846757
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Hay hk .... 3k$ tooooo much ferr U ? .... how about a FG hood alone furrr FREE ? ..

IF you are not in-a-hurry, can supply me with a steel hood(to use to make the mold) and can get me two other orders ....

.... THERE you go !




...Are you talking strong enough to work with stock hinges?




WOULD you like it painted TOOOO ? ...

SURE ... but no springs .




...If you insist.

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Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: 8secDart] #846758
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Sorry To answer the Poster.I have a Guy in Indy that can build the real deal stuff.He has done a hood and fenders for me about 6 years ago.He does alot of Indy car work.The hood was $1,200 and fenders were $2,000 but Damn was light.Could hold the hood up with 2 fingers.




...Is his name Mike...

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: 8secDart] #846759
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Sorry To answer the Poster.I have a Guy in Indy that can build the real deal stuff.He has done a hood and fenders for me about 6 years ago.He does alot of Indy car work.The hood was $1,200 and fenders were $2,000 but Damn was light.Could hold the hood up with 2 fingers.




Huh ? ...

You just said earlier that Glasstech was the best race-stuff .. now this ? ...

TWO fingers ? .... why sooo heavy ?

Re: carbon fiber body parts? [Re: dOc !] #846760
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Yes it was Mike.
And Mr Dick Fiberglass get a new hobby!!!!!!!

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