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Some basic questions. I have access to some guages and large container of freon r-12. I'm guessing that you put the freon in on the low pressure side-if this is correct where is the low pressure side fitting and what is the max pressure you should see on the guages when the system is full? Does anyone have a picture of the low vs. high presure fittings? This is for 67 dart with original factory air. Thanks for any and all help.

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: 69fish] #84206
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you first need to vacuum the system to remove all moisture ,dont skip this step if you want it to work properly !

gage psi should be app 40 low side 240 high side at 80* air temp .

low psi is the larger hose size !

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: calrobb2000] #84207
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I'm going to be brutally blunt, here. I spent about 15 years servicing low, med, and high temp AC and refer units.

You should SERIOUSLY consider hiring someone who knows what they are doing. Refrigerant is nothing to play with. It can seriously injure you, and mistakes in charging--like slugging the compressor with liquid--can turn it into instant junk. Undercharging can be as bad as overcharging, and especially if there is some problem in the system, novices tend to "add more" to see if it will cool.

Once again, a good way to scatter a compressor

240, by the way, is pretty high for a target head pressure with R12. My old Ranger still uses R12, and as i remember, it runs around 180.

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Thanks for the replies so far. I see 2 fittings. One is a knurled fitting on the flat top of the left side of the compressor (facing the compressor) and a capped hex nut on the end of a tube coming straight out from the top front of the compressor. Is the the fitting on the top left side of the compressor itself the low pressure fitting? Is the high side the other fitting? A friend who has done this on other older makes is doing this for me, but I want to see for myself that is connected properly. Thanks.

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: 69fish] #84209
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The rear connection on the compressor is the low side, follow the line entering the rear until you find a charge fitting.

Gauge readings are dependent on outside air temperature.


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I'm going to be brutally blunt, here. I spent about 15 years servicing low, med, and high temp AC and refer units.

You should SERIOUSLY consider hiring someone who knows what they are doing. Refrigerant is nothing to play with. It can seriously injure you, and mistakes in charging--like slugging the compressor with liquid--can turn it into instant junk. Undercharging can be as bad as overcharging, and especially if there is some problem in the system, novices tend to "add more" to see if it will cool.

Once again, a good way to scatter a compressor

240, by the way, is pretty high for a target head pressure with R12. My old Ranger still uses R12, and as i remember, it runs around 180.




Dangerous stuff if done wrong. I had an experienced instructor who was missing 3 fingers from a can explosion. Inattention caused him to hook up to the high side and that overpressurized the can. Get help if you dont know what youre doing.

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Re: a/c recharge with r-12 #84211
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You raise a very important point. Always ensure that the valve to the high side is closed when running the AC.

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: 69fish] #84212
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you can do it. Just be cautious,patience & ask for help when needed.


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Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: RapidRobert] #84213
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Thanks for all the replies. I just haven't found a picture showing the high and low pressure ports. My Haynes manual doesn't show them nor does my haynes a/c manual. Don't have a picture that shows them and that is what I really need. Don't have a FSM. Looked online and searched moparts. Thanks for the help so far.

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: 69fish] #84214
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small line high pressure large line low side.

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: stumpy] #84215
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This pic shows the suction line (low pressure) gauge connection blocked in red.
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Some basic questions. I have access to some guages and large container of freon r-12. I'm guessing that you put the freon in on the low pressure side-if this is correct where is the low pressure side fitting and what is the max pressure you should see on the guages when the system is full? Does anyone have a picture of the low vs. high presure fittings? This is for 67 dart with original factory air. Thanks for any and all help.




I'm thinking. If you have to ask these questions. Then you don't have the experience to do this safely.

Re: a/c recharge with r-12 [Re: therick] #84217
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My friend's dad is doing this for me, but has only recharged other makes. I wanted to see the correct ports for myself because he may not be familiar with where they are and learn something.

Ronman - thanks for the pic. My 67 looks different though. Don't have that fitting in the back.I also don't have the fitting on the larger "muffler" piece that yours does. Does the FSM show good pictures of this? If so, I will go ahead and get one. Thanks, all. I appreciate the replies and help. I just want to see if it works if I can do so safely and before I spend a lot of money on an r-134 retrofit just to find out it still doesn't work. Blair.







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