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Lakewood Traction Bars #824908 10/08/10 11:37 AM 10/08/10 11:37 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct Moe OP enthusiast
Moe OP enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct	Why do I still see these on some '66-'73 leaf sprung MoPars? Am I missing something? 6239469-20475.jpg (256 downloads)

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Moe] #824909 10/08/10 11:43 AM 10/08/10 11:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Not all owners of Mopars are Mopar-drivers.... BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: BigBlockMopar] #824910 10/08/10 11:47 AM 10/08/10 11:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS B BossRide top fuel
BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	If you put the snubber on the front spring hanger they work... we had them on a 70 Challenger with N-50s when I was a kid and the wheel hop stopped. With my shackles and air shocks, and lack of an adjustable pinion snubber, the spring wrap on my hoopty when doing burn outs is disgusting. Plus they look cool... I hope to have mine on within a month after my axle swap. The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: BigBlockMopar] #824911 10/08/10 11:56 AM 10/08/10 11:56 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car Mopar_Country pro stock
Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: Not all owners of Mopars are Mopar-drivers....

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Moe] #824912 10/08/10 05:39 PM 10/08/10 05:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer! torkrules I'm neurotic
torkrules I'm neurotic Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer!	Quote: Why do I still see these on some '66-'73 leaf sprung MoPars? Am I missing something? Chryslers use asymmetrical springs (short in the front/long in the back) so the t-bars are less effective. Pinion snubbers work best on stock suspension, but any system that causes the rear to lift such as a superstock spring probably won't need a snubber either.

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Moe] #824913 10/08/10 06:32 PM 10/08/10 06:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL	Quote: Why do I still see these on some '66-'73 leaf sprung MoPars? Am I missing something? Because if you take the time to install the correctly they work very well. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: slantzilla] #824914 10/08/10 07:53 PM 10/08/10 07:53 PM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida Golden-Arm I Live Here
Golden-Arm I Live Here Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,570 Sunny South Florida	joe dirt gives them 2 thumbs up!! "When Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty"

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Golden-Arm] #824915 10/08/10 08:16 PM 10/08/10 08:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,359 Buzzard County, FL IronWolf pro stock
IronWolf pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,359 Buzzard County, FL	Chip "Holeshot Horton" used them on his Duster and won many thousands of dollars racing. Let's hear your scientific reasons for why traction bars wouldn't work ?

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: IronWolf] #824916 10/08/10 08:20 PM 10/08/10 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 543 Indiana, Just Off I-70 BradD mopar
BradD mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 543 Indiana, Just Off I-70	Quote: Chip "Holeshot Horton" used them on his Duster and won many thousands of dollars racing. Let's hear your scientific reasons for why traction bars wouldn't work ? There's a name I haven't heard in years. Since I lived in Sanford in the 80's. Check out the Dorn's 69 Barracuda "Switchblade" in the Nov.2010 MCG Check out the Dorn's refurbished 36 Ford in the Feb.2011 Street Rodder

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: BradD] #824917 10/08/10 09:23 PM 10/08/10 09:23 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	dog catchers just flat out work if installed correct I had a peg leg rear axle that went from one long stripe to 2 short ones about 1.5 feet...on a 4 door fury no less n-50s and traction bars was very effective in the day granted it has come a long way since then and caltracs are shizzit nowdays but some things are just cooler than hell! I want a set for my truck with the flipflop on the rear axle 6240315-fullpimmerinthesun#2.jpg (301 downloads)

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Moe] #824918 10/08/10 09:33 PM 10/08/10 09:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,144 Arkansas 340727dart master
340727dart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,144 Arkansas	If you're dead set on using traction bars, at least get the kind that take the place of the spring plate. The kind you showed clamp to the leafs. That binds the suspension big-time and kills the ride. Your life is not my fault. My life is none of your business. Speech is free only if you agree with those in control.

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: 340727dart] #824919 10/08/10 09:48 PM 10/08/10 09:48 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	the clamp ons did flatin out the spring arch some and stiffin it up a good bit but it had airshocks and the highjacker bunny sticker so that offset the ride factor then there was the 10" wide keystones and n-50s that had to have those shock extentions from from JCwhitney to round out the package

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: scratchnfotraction] #824920 10/08/10 10:00 PM 10/08/10 10:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,853 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,853 Ontario, Canada	I seem to recall I never tightened the front u-bolt, only the rear. The front u-bolt was only there to keep the t-bar centered on the spring. The t-bar had to be long enough that the rubber bumper was just a hair behind the spring eye bolt and the bumper was short enough not to touch during normal driving. So ... when you got on it the spring wound up and both the front u-bolt plate and the bumper hit the spring and planted the tire.

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Stanton] #824921 10/08/10 10:27 PM 10/08/10 10:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,501 Newfoundland Canada L Larry_Dart_360 pro stock
Larry_Dart_360 pro stock L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,501 Newfoundland Canada	Year ago I ran traction bars on my Dakota when I raced...I took off 2 tenths in my 60 foot with them... and then I ran them on my '71 dart...They made the car hook...They work...I took them off and installed a pinion snubber...It worked as well..but it hit when i went over rough spots in the road...I prefer the traction bars

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Larry_Dart_360] #824922 10/08/10 10:35 PM 10/08/10 10:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	it cant realy be all that hard to weld some 1�x2" square steel with a bumpstop in one end to a set of old springpads, and if that works well then it woult be alot of fun looking at the guys with caltracs scratching there heads.. alitle oftopic but on the same plan how would it work having a tractionbar that is floatin on the front spring bolt? i understand it wont help plant the tire alot but wouldnt that help more stabilising the front springsegment? i bet old style tractionbars is alot better than having nothing, i have seen 4 speedcars with low hanging tractionbars and its quite obvius that the front springsegments take a hard beating under power, its very clearly visible when watching the tractionbars when shifting gears

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: Larry_Dart_360] #824923 10/08/10 10:41 PM 10/08/10 10:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop dustergirl340 Chicken Little
dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	Ran them on my Dart just for fun (got them in a trade) and my sixty foot dropped. Most Mopar guys just automatically dismiss them because they heard from someone that they don't work, I prefer real world trial and error instead of hearsay.

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: dustergirl340] #824924 10/09/10 11:15 AM 10/09/10 11:15 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Conn. B b5 69 member
b5 69 member B Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Conn.	I put an old set on my car just to see, and I think they look cool. I know all about traction bars and mopars. So if you see bars on a mopar dont just assume the guy knows nothing. Maybe their just having some fun.Most mopar people who talk about traction bars probably have never bolted a set on.Im gonna leave them on for a while.

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: 340727dart] #824925 10/09/10 11:51 AM 10/09/10 11:51 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car Mopar_Country pro stock
Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: That binds the suspension big-time and kills the ride. I'm not sure I agree with that, I put the bars on mine and it did stiffen the ride but it still rides decent. In fact I think it's better. I believe the traction problem with Mopars and stock springs is spring wrap. With that said I would think that the traction bars will help, I know they did in my case. I have mine installed so the pad is under the front spring eye with 1/4 inch space I have seen a noticeable improvement in acceleration from a stop.

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: dustergirl340] #824926 10/09/10 05:18 PM 10/09/10 05:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer! torkrules I'm neurotic
torkrules I'm neurotic Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,715 closer to Canadian beer!	Quote: Ran them on my Dart just for fun (got them in a trade) and my sixty foot dropped. Most Mopar guys just automatically dismiss them because they heard from someone that they don't work, I prefer real world trial and error instead of hearsay. I'm a firm believer in the "if it works then it works" philosophy (so is Yogi Beara), BUT I'm curious as to why thesuperstock guys/Ramchargers always used snubers instead and all the MP books state not to use tractions bar, only snubbers?

Re: Lakewood Traction Bars [Re: torkrules] #824927 10/09/10 07:43 PM 10/09/10 07:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL	Quote: Quote: Ran them on my Dart just for fun (got them in a trade) and my sixty foot dropped. Most Mopar guys just automatically dismiss them because they heard from someone that they don't work, I prefer real world trial and error instead of hearsay. I'm a firm believer in the "if it works then it works" philosophy (so is Yogi Beara), BUT I'm curious as to why thesuperstock guys/Ramchargers always used snubers instead and all the MP books state not to use tractions bar, only snubbers? Probably because they ran SS springs. Traction aids are not supposed to be used with them other than a snubber. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

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