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New Repop oil filters #81412
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Is anyone repoping the original oil filters that were used in 1970? Thanks.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 70challrtse] #81413
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the assy line green ones arent made

there is a mopar repo of the early 70s red white blue logo filter made

but no option right now for the $$$$$ orig green filters

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 70challrtse] #81414
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Is anyone repoping the original oil filters that were used in 1970? Thanks.




Mopar Performance is showing them in their catalog, as coming out this year. Don't hold your breath!!!!!!!!

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Captain Flapjack] #81415
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Are you referring to part number 77R06287 in the new 2008 Mopar Restoration Parts Supplement Catalog ?

I was hoping to find them at Carlisle this Summer.
The catalog just says "late availablity"


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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: anlauto] #81416
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Are you referring to part number 77R06287 in the new 2008 Mopar Restoration Parts Supplement Catalog ?

I was hoping to find them at Carlisle this Summer.
The catalog just says "late availablity"




Yes, I was.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: sixpaktoogo] #81417
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I hope they use a good vendor.Hate to see it end up a cardboard filled Fram!

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Captain Flapjack] #81418
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the assy line green ones arent made

there is a mopar repo of the early 70s red white blue logo filter made

but no option right now for the $$$$$ orig green filters



I was referring to the green ones. So there are not any presently available? What do the NOS filters go for? Thanks

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 70challrtse] #81419
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Well,about a year ago thee of them went for over $700 on eBay.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 70challrtse] #81420
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These are available from Mopar Performance.


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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: MuscleMopars] #81421
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Wrong filter.This is the one in question.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: MuscleMopars] #81422
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These are available from Mopar Performance.




and are only correct for 1972 and later

the green one is not due out until late summer. I ck'd a few days ago. And I SERIOUSLY doubt there will be any at Carlisle or the Nats (repops that is )

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: gtx6970] #81423
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These are available from Mopar Performance.




and are only corect for 1072 and later

the green one is not due out until late summer. I ck'd a few days ago. And I SERIOUSLY doubt there will be any at Carlisle or the Nats (repops that is )



Bill, please let me know if the correct filter becomes available before the Nats,or if you know of a reasonably priced Nos filter. Thanks.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: gtx6970] #81424
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I may bring a few NOS ones to those shows...for those who cant wait for a repro that will likely not have the grit like originals.

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: mccannix] #81425
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Are they correct for my 70 Challenger?

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 70challrtse] #81426
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Are they correct for my 70 Challenger?





Yes

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: gtx6970] #81427
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Here's a repro......could it be a figment of my imagination? Grit and all...

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Mike Mancini] #81428
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wait for iiiit.......and.....done.

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Mike Mancini] #81429
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Who makes the '72+ red, white, and blue repro oil filters for Mopar, and who makes the green repro ones?

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Mike Mancini] #81430
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Here's a repro......could it be a figment of my imagination? Grit and all...




whos selling them and how much??? looks like a nice piece, that means my NOS ones are not worth anything anymore.

Re: New Repop oil filters #81431
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Now if Michael's has this telltale embossed M on the top, it's an excellent looking piece ...even if a detail freak may notice the omission of the letters M.R. found on originals... under the O circled R following MOPAR.....

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: gtx6970] #81432
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These are available from Mopar Performance.






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and are only correct for 1972 and later





They are correct on earlier cars if you changed your oil in 72 or later...


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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: mccannix] #81433
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...even if a detail freak may notice the omission of the letters M.R. found on originals... under the O circled R following MOPAR.....






That is a really nice piece....But, as you noticed Terry, seems there's always some small detail that gets missed.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #81434
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What were the gold filters used on and when?

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whos selling them and how much???






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...even if a detail freak may notice the omission of the letters M.R. found on originals... under the O circled R following MOPAR.....






That is a really nice piece....But, as you noticed Terry, seems there's always some small detail that gets missed.




you guys amaze me, nothing gets by haha. (those two letters got screwed up on my silk screen and I left them off this one thinking..who would notice?) Stand By.....


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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Mike Mancini] #81437
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I for one, did not realize that the red/white/blue filters were '72 and newer correct...good info.

For years, I was under the assumption that the oil filters were on the engine when it was painted...like negative battery cables, etc.

So...does anyone know for certain if that "assembly line" filters would have been painted or overpsrayed engine color?

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: MattMPA] #81438
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I remember my 72 Satellite Sebring Plus had a 400-2V and
it's oil filter was painted blue like the engine. It was a short version of the normal oil filter. I also remember having a hard time removing the filter since some gorilla must have tightened it until it screamed.
Ron

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Ronnman] #81439
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How did they break-in the motors? Was it before they were painted? When was the first filter changed?

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 375inStroke] #81440
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I remember an original 1971 Dart and 74 Duster 318-2V and the oil filter was painted blue like the engine.

I have never seen a factory installed original assembly line filter on a 383 or 440 engine prior to 1972.

The Ad for the Hemi engine published by Chrysler Corp in 1967 shows th eengine painted and it does not appear that the filter has any over spray. However, it is not a very crisp photo.


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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: MMC Detroit] #81441
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I remember an original 1971 Dart and 74 Duster 318-2V and the oil filter was painted blue like the engine.

I have never seen a factory installed original assembly line filter on a 383 or 440 engine prior to 1972.

The Ad for the Hemi engine published by Chrysler Corp in 1967 shows th eengine painted and it does not appear that the filter has any over spray. However, it is not a very crisp photo.





But it also doesn't have the exhaust manifolds painted!

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: sixpaktoogo] #81442
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...and the saga continues.

This is the only color photo that I have ever seen of a 426 Hemi Engine. It was most likley taken at the Marysville plant in Marysville, MI in about 1966 by the Chrysler AD adgency.

What we do not know is this was a spriced up version under a controlled situation for the AD. Let's not try to draw any firm conclusions. Take it for what it is worth until someone can produce some objective assembly line color shots.

I'm aware from a photograph of a 1967 426 Hemi crate engine that was ordeded from the dealer in late 1969 and there was no oil filter in place. The oil filter mounting area had masking tape over it.

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 375inStroke] #81443
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How did they break-in the motors? Was it before they were painted? When was the first filter changed?



I believe it was changed during dealer prep after the car was delivered to the dealership. And the style pictured here would have been installed then.
In a related question, when doing a concours restoration, would restoring a car to showroom condition be acceptable or does it have to be to off the assembly line condition?
In my case I have a T/A, sold by Mr. Norms. I'd rather have Mr. Norms decal on the spoiler and Norms license plate frames on the car when its done. For that matter, to make the car assembly line correct, the exhaust tips would need to be loose in the trunk, not installed. That seems sort of ridiculous.
And for my restoration to showroom condition, this oil filter would be correct, not the green one.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Mastershake340] #81444
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How did they break-in the motors? Was it before they were painted? When was the first filter changed?



I believe it was changed during dealer prep after the car was delivered to the dealership. And the style pictured here would have been installed then.
In a related question, when doing a concours restoration, would restoring a car to showroom condition be acceptable or does it have to be to off the assembly line condition?
In my case I have a T/A, sold by Mr. Norms. I'd rather have Mr. Norms decal on the spoiler and Norms license plate frames on the car when its done. For that matter, to make the car assembly line correct, the exhaust tips would need to be loose in the trunk, not installed. That seems sort of ridiculous.
And for my restoration to showroom condition, this oil filter would be correct, not the green one.




Can anyone document their original filter as driven off the dealer's lot? Any Mopar filter has to be perfectly acceptable for concours judging, doesn't it?

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #81445
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I don't understand people wanting to put nos filters on they're motors. Were talking about a filter that's 40 years old. The paper has to have some deterioration and most likely would come apart. Now if it is changed out before each show and motor isn't started that's different.
The question is who is the manufacturer of the repop filters ? Is it a good brand ? If it's fram
I would vote against it.

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: MLR426] #81446
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Wow, you guys should worry more about wearing out the pedal pads and seat covers than about what your oil filter looks like.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: mccannix] #81447
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Now if Michael's has this telltale embossed M on the top, it's an excellent looking piece ...even if a detail freak may notice the omission of the letters M.R. found on originals... under the O circled R following MOPAR.....





OK....finally found time. This should apease the gods.

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Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: Mike Mancini] #81449
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so when are these little GEMS going to be available and the cost?
im need 6 right away plus 8 for the shelf.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: 70challrtse] #81450
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i need 7 right away and oh wait a minute i already have a case from the 70's on the shelf.they were expensive $2.50 each but money is no object.

Re: New Repop oil filters [Re: sixbbl69] #81451
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i need 7 right away and oh wait a minute i already have a case from the 70's on the shelf.they were expensive $2.50 each but money is no object.





Jerry,I only need one!

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so when are these little GEMS going to be available and the cost?
im need 6 right away plus 8 for the shelf.




Like he said...

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so when are these little GEMS going to be available and the cost?
im need 6 right away plus 8 for the shelf.




Like he said...





another intelligent answer from RJS.

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so when are these little GEMS going to be available and the cost?
im need 6 right away plus 8 for the shelf.




Like he said...





another intelligent answer from RJS.




WOW!!! I think you have me confused with someone else Chris, I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU.

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