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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: hemicop]
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09/19/10 10:44 PM
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just force, that does not mean pouring gasoline on someone...
I don't think so. For a 65 year-old man to REASONABLY detain a felony suspect AND insure his own safety, a REASONABLE person would expect him to resort to something other than shere brute strength,which he may not have. He therefore resorted to other "assets" availible to him & merely threatened the individual. Another way of looking at it is, he was only utilizing his Right of free speech after the "poor, misunderstood" felon "somehow" got gasoline on him.  .
GROW UP! Someone stood up to a criminal, the bad guy "lost" & you don't like it!
those that sympathize with the criminal, what would you have Roy do? Let him go? The cops response wouldn't allow for that, so ahe did the best he could with the assets availible....
its not even worth it, I dont feel sorry for the perp, I dont feel like Roy deserves a medal.
its not worth it to explain myself to you or anyone that thinks the good ole days of back yard justice is still justifyable.
if anyone needs to throw a flamable liquid on someone and then threaten them, no Dare them to leave... wow.
I dont feel the guy deserves a break, I am glad that roy caught him and got a couple hits in, but WHERE IS THE LINE???
whats next?
YOU NEED TO GROW UP, it isnt about someone standing up to a criminal, and it isnt that I dont like it, I'm estatic that it happened, but what happened and the hillbilly attitude of WAY TO GO for what happened, is what I dont like... there is justifiable, there is right and then there is going too far, and saying well its in NC and thats his home state so anyone that didnt know roy would.... BS, there is right and wrong, Roy caught the guy doing wrong, and he did wrong in what happened next, detain the guy, call for someone in the next pit to come over and help him, follow him on his pit bike, call security, there were probably a lot more reasonable, YES REASONABLE things he could have done besides dossing the guy with gasoline and threaten him with FIRE if he left.
I hope the guy gets jail time for what he did, btu I hope Roy has to write a FAT check for what he did.
detain and ensure his safety?? if he was worried about his safety then he should have left the guy alone, chase him off, follow him and get TRAINED people to handle it.
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
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09/19/10 10:52 PM
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Ever wonder why so few people jump off bridges ??? its because of the swift and immediate consequenses the society we live in today have been brain washed to abolish consequencesi caught 2 kids who broke into my truck and where stealing my possesions.. i beat the shot of out one of them... and my buddy chased and beat the shot out of the other one.. when the cops showed up...he saw my bloody knuckles and said.."dont tell me..as far as i am concerned you scratched them the getting out of your car in a hurry". once the cops checked them out.. the criminals had mutiple warrants and one of them had one for Statutory Rape..... The beating they suffered...was just.as far as I am concerned.... the Cops basically made sure it slid.... Consequenses...for those guys besides the justice system..i can tell you those guys got a Consequences...they were not expecting that night.. ITS Pretty obvious that these criminals are not afraid of the Authorities... but if they knew they would be brused,bloddied and sore...i promise they will/would make smarter choices in life.... cheapst PS. I wouldnt be surprised if Roys Actions cause that guy to change his ways.... and do right in life... funny how a good ass kikin and the fear of God can do that...  .
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: dannysbee]
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09/20/10 12:31 AM
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They should give Roy a medal, I'm really tired of all the bleeding hearts in this world feeling sorry for the criminals and making up excuses for them........
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
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09/20/10 01:39 AM
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Probably won't have to worry about that guy trying to steal anything at the racetrack again. That's the idea. Good for Roy.
Herb, keep a couple of cans of wasp and hornet spray around, the kind that sprays 30 feet. That stuff is better than pepper spray. Serious hurt in a can.
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: bigdad]
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09/20/10 03:11 AM
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Sounds like an assult charge to me ?
What gives him the authority ?
I agree with him at very least , stopping and detaining the perp but, he can't break the law ?
you cant be serious ?????????????? this thought process...........
your mindset is EXACTLY what is destroying America..
liberalism.
think about it.
any and all criminals should be AT LEAST PHYSICALLY BEATEN WHEN CAUGHT IN THE ACT.
AT LEAST . 
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: plasticfantastic]
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09/20/10 09:59 AM
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if he was worried about his safety then he should have left the guy alone, chase him off, follow him and get TRAINED people to handle it.
Why should any of us have to rely on someone else.....especially a government entity ... to do what is right ?
Trained ?
I've been trained in many things over the years and some of them would insure that this person never stole again.
But to lose the self reliance that made this nation great is a sad thing to ponder.
My garage was broken into a couple months after we moved here........15 + years ago.
After filling out the police report and doing everything that would ever be done regarding the case , the officer asked me " Do you have a gun ? "
I told him I didn't , and his advice was simply " Get one ".
I will not allow myself to be a victim if I can prevent it.
Nor my family , nor a stranger who needs my help.
I am not wired that way , and not only do I see this position as the correct one , but I cannot understand why anyone would think differently.
I fail to see where this thief got anything he didn't deserve.
As I said earlier.......if Roy wanted to host a barbecue , I do believe he would have done just that.
He taught the punk a lesson no court could ever do , and if he has to write out a " fat check " then the lesson was wasted and we all are poorer for it.
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
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09/20/10 11:11 AM
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who are you. who is roy to decide what punishment is deserved for anything, yeah the guy shouldnt have been doing it, YEAH good for roy to stop the guy, to stand up to him, BUT WHEN DOES SOMEONE CROSS THE LINE?
my point of getting trained people to take care of this was to the comment that roy needed to ensure his safety, if anyone needs to go to extreme measures to ensure thier safety when other people are around, (let the guy flee, follow him and when he gets into an area say Stop Thief or something... liek all you say Roy is known, I know him from site with that 3 stooges moe haircut and dim smile, I'm sure plenty of people would have helped him subdue this guy...
its sad that people think that abiding by the law doesnt count to them when they catch someone else doing something wrong... he did wrong, so that makes it ok for someone else to do more wrong to him because, "that taught him a lesson".
FAT FAT CHECK with a couple zeros, thats the last i'm gonna say because its obvious there are people on this board that feel there should be people on horseback, roaming the country side with some rope, a gun and a good dose of vigilante justice.
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
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09/20/10 11:48 AM
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i can't believe this thread has turned in to a right vs. wrong type scenario.
we have specific laws in Florida on how we're allowed to handle situations like those in the article. deadly force is allowed here if the perp is on your property, no questions asked.
i've been the victim of thieves more than once and will not tolerate it. a simple "pull of the trigger" to the perp ends the crime spree around here. thieves are the scourge of society IMO. whatever happens to them is their tuff luck for choosing that way of life. i'd be more than happy to "guide" the soul of the misguided thief. no mamby pamby's allowed.
Roy should be rewarded for an act of heroism, regardless of the tactics used to "detain: the criminal law breaker. i tip my hat to him.
if you disagree with my opinion, so be it. we'll simply agree to disagree. you handle things your way and i'll do what i feel i need to do. i won't bore you with the story of the 17 year old that broke in to my home more than once about 3 years ago and where he is today.
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: plasticfantastic]
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09/20/10 12:32 PM
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who are you. who is roy to decide what punishment is deserved for anything, yeah the guy shouldnt have been doing it, YEAH good for roy to stop the guy, to stand up to him, BUT WHEN DOES SOMEONE CROSS THE LINE?
my point of getting trained people to take care of this was to the comment that roy needed to ensure his safety, if anyone needs to go to extreme measures to ensure thier safety when other people are around, (let the guy flee, follow him and when he gets into an area say Stop Thief or something... liek all you say Roy is known, I know him from site with that 3 stooges moe haircut and dim smile, I'm sure plenty of people would have helped him subdue this guy...
its sad that people think that abiding by the law doesnt count to them when they catch someone else doing something wrong... he did wrong, so that makes it ok for someone else to do more wrong to him because, "that taught him a lesson".
FAT FAT CHECK with a couple zeros, thats the last i'm gonna say because its obvious there are people on this board that feel there should be people on horseback, roaming the country side with some rope, a gun and a good dose of vigilante justice.
Ok let me see I make a run in my super stock car, I come back to MY MOTORHOME TO COOL OFF, as I walk in there is a guy inside who threatened me, I'm 65 years old and the thief is 20's. The thief makes a move as a motorhome only has one entrance and exit. The problem is he met his match as he lunged for me and said Ill kick your ass old man.......Now am I wrong by kicking his ass out of self defense.......
The bottom line is it was one on one in the motorhome, he was threatened and he did what he had to do.
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: plasticfantastic]
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09/20/10 01:20 PM
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its obvious there are people on this board that feel there should be people on horseback, roaming the country side with some rope, a gun and a good dose of vigilante justice.
 Vigilante justice is far better than the no justice we have currently in California with everyone afraid they'll be sued if they react to the thieves, muggers & rapists...
As was previously mentioned "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Well I'm not willing to let evil prevail..  Wheres my rope...
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
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09/20/10 02:00 PM
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Bigdad.....are sure you live in Texas ? I would expect this from someone from California NOT Texas.
Roy deserves a medal or trophy as far as I'm concerned.
I think the gas thing is just a great addition to a good story.
I enjoy the fact that if some intruder comes into my house unwanted, weapon or not, i have the right to use deadly force.
Break out the shotgun. 
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Re: Roy Hill doing Police work at ZMAX.....
[Re: 408Dust]
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09/20/10 02:28 PM
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Plastic I think we understand your position is this a friend of yours?
Fellows your wasting your time, they can't help it.
i dont think people understand my position, i'm not saying that roy shouldnt have defended his motor home, i'm just not reading that he was inside and all, i was under the impression before that he caught him trying to break in, and i was under the impression it wasnt even Roys motorhome. my bad.
i have no idea who the perp is, those that do know wont say either.
I dont condone stealing, I dont condone it at all and to say i'm all for this guy to get off scott free, well you, or whoever doesnt know me at all. i'm just saying that there is a line between right and wrong, and when someone is wronged, that does not give permission to ignore that line and do whatever you feel like doing to someone.
i have no idea who the picture you put up is
the pit area being all noisy and all? according to the reports it was when cars were up in the lanes and the area was dead... except for justice Hill.
whatever.. its done and there isnt any going back, i'll wait for the Lets bail Roy out thread, and i wont say i told you so.
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