I follow now. Sorry just a little slow on your thinking. I was told that a 3" drop on a 94 would equal a 2" drop on a 93. I guess I would be better off taking off the 94 springs and cutting 1 coil on my old springs for a 2" drop for now so I don't have to deal with the steering and the ball joint angle right now.

Thats the case if it didnt have the pocketed control arms. I plan to use 94 up drop coils in one of my trucks aswell. Want to sell yours? I have more than 1 truck I have a set of stock 1/2 ton coils you can have to see where itll sit than you can buy new or use them

I went to Pull-A-Part here in Nashville today. It appears that ALL vans have the same lower control arm. I looked at two half ton vans and the lower control arms looked the same as the ones in the 3/4 ton and ton vans. Does this sound right?

I also wasn't able to break lower control arm loose from the steering knuckle in the junkyard. I asked if they could do it for a fee and they won't. Maybe I can find some loose somewhere. Do any of you guys have a pair for sale?

From what Ive seen at the jy I would agree but you best bet is go to rockauto.com and compare balljoints and control arm bushings. I believe 1 ton vans have a bigger bj for sure. I believe another member awhile back posted pics of what he had and it was bigger

Half ton springs won't work for me cause I am a diesel. But I may sell them. Do you think 1 coil cut off will drop the front 2 in.

Yeah that makes it a lot easier by taking those bolts out. On the axle on top of the springs I personally have not done it but my understanding is that you ended up with about a 4 1/2" to 5" drop which I kind of think is to much for my tatse but to each their own. Good luck with it Kevin. Keep us posted.
Larry

Sorry to drag up an old post, but thought this question might be better answered here. I have van pocketed arms and new Trw 3/4 ton springs in the garage waiting for warmer weather. I had planned on trimming the 3/4 ton springs before I put them in, but I can't decide how much. My truck also has a horrible case of the dodge lean. I have almost 1 inch on lean to the driver side. So should I cut one round off the new springs, or would it be better to stagger them say, one full round drive side and a half round passenger. Or should the new springs solve the lean. I would like to get this truck low. In the range of the mid america kit. I am seriously considering a spring over in the rear since I am changing the rearend. I have an 3.55 limited slip rearend sitting in the "truck parts pile".
Thanks for the help.

i'm not sure about the 3/4 ton springs but I cut 1/2 coil on each(I had no lean)and used my stock coils (/6) and the van control arms (and flipped the back I run 235 70 15 on the front and 255 70 15 on the rear

Thanks 1moparman, That is the look I am going for. I may try trimming up my stock springs before I cut up the new ones. Maybe I can trim the passenger side to compensate for the lean.

from what i could tell at the parts store the /6 and small block springs are the same, my truck with /6 springs and a big block is way too soft in the front. im planning on trying stock height 3/4 ton springs


if i were you id install the 3/4 springs at stock height and check if that corrects your lean issue. then remove and trim as you see fit

3/4 ton and half ton share the same front coils unless heavy duty. The heavy duty ones are basically one ton and are taller than 3/4&1/2 tons and are what is used with the Pocketed control arms.

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I finally got my arms painted. I started on lowering the front last Sat. but smashing my fingers (bled through my left ring finger nail) while loosening the pivot bolt and trouble locating a 3/4" drill bit has held me up. I fooled with it a little today after work. The holes in my driver's side control arm didn't line up with the ones on the pivot bracket. I found that the metal around the pivot bushing was up against the pivot bracket. I had to grind off a little metal around the top on both sides to leave some room for the arm to move.

I had to drive around to find a 3/4" drill bit. I finally ended up buying one of those unibits. I had to drill the front and back for both holes to get it right because the steps aren't wide enough on the unibit.

what year lca's are you guys using for lowering the trucks are all the dodge van lca's the same?

Yes the van control arms are the same up to 97 I believe but the 1 tons take a big balljoint and you'll have to ream out your spindle for the bigger balljoint IIRC correctly. You can go to rockauto.com and search the yrs to see when they changed and the diff bj's