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Build what you want to run/drive the way you want.

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Then whats the point of asking everybodys opinion? He asked for it, and he got it. Yeah, go with the new Hemi then. Drop literally thousands of dollars on something that will run like a mild 360. Thats an apples and oranges comparison anyway. Gee, stroked 440, or a stock 5.7 Hemi. Speaking of, I was thinking about combinations for my Charger. What do you think? Maybe pick up a stock slant 6, or a 528 Hemi??? Hmm...too close to call! Decisions decisions....

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If you read my post you will see I suggested the 440 over the 5.7. I agree bang for your buck the 440 is a much better option. I just think your comment of threatening to walk right by his car at a car show if he puts in a 5.7 hemi is totally ridiculous. Because I'm sure that's the deciding factor for him.

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Ali, you'll never get through to Yuck and some of the others. Progress is good.
The architecture in the new hemi is light years ahead of the old wedges that were based on 50s era technology.
The only thing the new engines lack is displacement. There is simply NO WAY an old 360 will make the same power as a 5.7 without giving up street manners and efficiency.
The 6.1 will make more power than a similarly equipped 440.
It's easy to make stupid power out of a 440. The same things can be done to the 6.1 to make it just as strong. It takes a pair of big money wedge heads to match the flow of the stock 6.1 heads. Add a little work to the new stuff and you'll be chasing B1 or big Indy heads to keep up.

Doesn't anybody rememebr the Jeep SRT running 9s with a full interior?

The new engine is a little pricier than the wedges. It's a little more difficult to swap at the moment too. However, those swaps are getting easier as more people get on board.

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I don't really have anything against them. However right now it's NOT a cheap swap. And it souldn't be entertained by somebody that doesn't have deep pockets. I think Daytona has the best reply here by running down the actual cost of things. For the OP to think he can drop a 5.7 into his Challey and roll and spend less time and $$$ than by building a mild 440 is crazy. If somebody gave him the 5.7 he's still looking at thousands of dollars not mention the time to get it all up and running. AND it might match the HP numbers (oh and he's not talking about an 09 engine) it's at a much higher RPM and will make no where near the torque of a 440.

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Honestly I am starting to think it will be the same by the time I put both motors in, the only difference is I could probably put the 440 in myself. I guess if I cant sell the 440source heads then the decision may be made for me I have the rods, the block, and crank. I know even to build a "mild 440" this will be somewhat expensive the whole reason for the stroker, hemi battle was because my machinist said why build a motor you dont want for $700 cheaper than the motor you want. I may have to wait until the hemi swap becomes cheaper, this is a really tough choice tho. With unlimited money I think I would have to go new 6.1 hemi javascript:void(0)

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Honestly I am starting to think it will be the same by the time I put both motors in, the only difference is I could probably put the 440 in myself. I guess if I cant sell the 440source heads then the decision may be made for me I have the rods, the block, and crank. I know even to build a "mild 440" this will be somewhat expensive the whole reason for the stroker, hemi battle was because my machinist said why build a motor you dont want for $700 cheaper than the motor you want. I may have to wait until the hemi swap becomes cheaper, this is a really tough choice tho. With unlimited money I think I would have to go new 6.1 hemi javascript:void(0)

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I guess you didn't read my last post complete NEW 440 intake to oil pan $3800 OBO. AND it will drop right in. I guess cost isn't really your main concern. good luck finding a 6.1 for under 6k.

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I guess you didn't read my last post complete NEW 440 intake to oil pan $3800 OBO. AND it will drop right in. I guess cost isn't really your main concern. good luck finding a 6.1 for under 6k. [/quo



I read your post but for 3800 I can buy a stroker kit and have my block machined. If I am going to build a 440 I may as well build the 440 I want. Besides I dont like buying stuff from other states unless its from a reputable manufacturer. That way if something goes wrong you have some form of recourse. If cost was no Issue, I would just buy a brand new 6.1 from Indy for 7k. Look man, I understand you love raised block motors, thats cool. But when it comes to reliability and factor Gen 3 Hemi's cant be beat. If you know me personally you know I dont want to be like everyone else. Thats why I got a mopar in the first place. Where I live there are none and if someone has one its a piece of junk or one that isnt cool (thats why I would not want the common big block) . I respect your opinion and value your comments and anyone elses. I will keep you posted on the build as it progresses I still havent made a decision but you have made me think.

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I guess you didn't read my last post complete NEW 440 intake to oil pan $3800 OBO. AND it will drop right in. I guess cost isn't really your main concern. good luck finding a 6.1 for under 6k. [/quo



I read your post but for 3800 I can buy a stroker kit and have my block machined. If I am going to build a 440 I may as well build the 440 I want. Besides I dont like buying stuff from other states unless its from a reputable manufacturer. That way if something goes wrong you have some form of recourse. If cost was no Issue, I would just buy a brand new 6.1 from Indy for 7k. Look man, I understand you love raised block motors, thats cool. But when it comes to reliability and factor Gen 3 Hemi's cant be beat. If you know me personally you know I dont want to be like everyone else. Thats why I got a mopar in the first place. Where I live there are none and if someone has one its a piece of junk or one that isnt cool (thats why I would not want the common big block) . I respect your opinion and value your comments and anyone elses. I will keep you posted on the build as it progresses I still havent made a decision but you have made me think.

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I like both. You posted a question and I told you what I think you easiest, cheapest option is. Sounds like you had your mind set before you made the post. Good luck with your project.

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Ive done 4 hemi swaps so far and i think the prices are a little high. First off you can buy a complete 6.1 brand new for less then 6250 from the dealer.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1&fpart=1
used 5.7 $1000 on the high end
oil pan and pick up $300 gasket is reusable
Motor mounts $125 TTI
Exhaust manifolds $free comes with motor
Harness and computer $1400 Hot Wire
Throttle Control $240 Dealer
elect fan $15 u pick yard
Rad Alum $200 Ebay
6.1 rad Hoses $50 Dealer
Electric Fuel pump kit $350 Rock Valley
Flex Plate $100 Mancini
45 deg oil filter adpt $50 Dealer
6.1 cam $115 Dealer
16 6.1 exhaust springs $80 Dealer
16 6.1 push rods $40 Dealer

$4065.
Now there is a Guy in the new product section that has harnesses for $ 895. and then find a used Computer for a 2004 dodge ram manual trans. I got mine for $100.
Im sure I for got something but this pretty well sums it up. I know its not s stroker motor but a Gen III can make some nice hp too.My Demon got 20.1mpg @ 75 mph with a 355 gear and no overdrive coming back from the Nats.

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Ive done 4 hemi swaps so far and i think the prices are a little high. First off you can buy a complete 6.1 brand new for less then 6250 from the dealer.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1&fpart=1
used 5.7 $1000 on the high end
oil pan and pick up $300 gasket is reusable
Motor mounts $125 TTI
Exhaust manifolds $free comes with motor
Harness and computer $1400 Hot Wire
Throttle Control $240 Dealer
elect fan $15 u pick yard
Rad Alum $200 Ebay
6.1 rad Hoses $50 Dealer
Electric Fuel pump kit $350 Rock Valley
Flex Plate $100 Mancini
45 deg oil filter adpt $50 Dealer
6.1 cam $115 Dealer
16 6.1 exhaust springs $80 Dealer
16 6.1 push rods $40 Dealer

$4065.
Now there is a Guy in the new product section that has harnesses for $ 895. and then find a used Computer for a 2004 dodge ram manual trans. I got mine for $100.
Im sure I for got something but this pretty well sums it up. I know its not s stroker motor but a Gen III can make some nice hp too.My Demon got 20.1mpg @ 75 mph with a 355 gear and no overdrive coming back from the Nats.

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Only problem with all that is you are getting a USED engine and that's just the cost of the parts, meaning he'd have to be able to do all the work himself. I think these swaps will become easier and cheaper in the years out when more aftermarket products hit the street and more people do it. He can also run an O/D trans w/ the 440 and get decent MPG's.

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