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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: Challenger340]
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08/26/10 12:20 PM
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Here is a pic of the broached end, the ARP is obvious.
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
#782165
08/26/10 12:23 PM
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The block end of the stud...note the difference on the end of the stud itself....you may be able to see it, but the body of the inferior stud is very " stratchy", you could feel it on your finger nail at each cut of the stud, vs the ARP, very smooth and hard. You will also notice where the shank and the threads meet, notice the rolled threads, the chamfer, and the overall apperance.
ARP on left, unknown on right.
I only have 2 sets of these here now, already spoken for, I can get more fairly quickly if anyone wants them, just PM me.
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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08/26/10 12:51 PM
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It's hard to explain that being some mistake like we didn't notice any differences. They are just too far apart looking for me to buy that one. who would have ever purchased only the ARP nuts and those junk studs unintentionally.
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: HEMIFRED]
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08/26/10 01:14 PM
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who would have ever purchased only the ARP nuts and those junk studs unintentionally.
The chinese factory....
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: Quicksilver440]
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08/26/10 01:17 PM
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who would have ever purchased only the ARP nuts and those junk studs unintentionally.
The chinese factory....
I doubt it was a chinese factory , more like a supplier trying to make a larger profit .
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: Quicksilver440]
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08/26/10 01:18 PM
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Big time stress point where the threads end on the Cheap stud....IMO World really FUBARED this one!
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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08/26/10 02:21 PM
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Hi guys, Im Chuck and I will represent WORLD Products. The ARP stud kit is $112.99 at Summit.
Im also the new MOPAR guy here and am currently building an all aluminum 540cu World HEMI.
So I feel your pain with the studs, I even checked
mine, and luckily they are ARP. Any questions you guys have fire away and I will find you an answer.
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
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08/26/10 02:27 PM
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Hello Challenger340, Thanks for bringing this potential problem up for me. I got lucky. My machinist has not had a problem repeating or holding the torque values. The studs are not arp's. I am changing to the arp's to keep my blood pressure down. I think because my torque values were correct upon machining the studs can be changed without having to re-machine anything. Now if something happens to the bottom end I can blame my Source crank.lol  Damon
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: JohnRR]
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08/26/10 02:46 PM
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who would have ever purchased only the ARP nuts and those junk studs unintentionally.
The chinese factory....
I doubt it was a chinese factory , more like a supplier trying to make a larger profit .
I was just going by the guys statement in his post...he said:
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The boss over here at World is now aware of the problem and has issued a statement to our foundry where both the iron and aluminum are cast. All if any left non ARP hardware is being discarded.
I thought their blocks were cast offshore and machined here? Maybe I'm wrong on that.... 
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: DarkSideofNY]
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08/26/10 09:03 PM
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Hi guys, Im Chuck and I will represent WORLD Products. The ARP stud kit is $112.99 at Summit.
Im also the new MOPAR guy here and am currently building an all aluminum 540cu World HEMI.
So I feel your pain with the studs, I even checked
mine, and they are ARP. Any questions you guys have fire away and I will find you an answer.
The boss over here at World is now aware of the problem and has issued a statement to our foundry where both the iron and aluminum are cast. All if any left non ARP hardware is being discarded.
ONLY ARP hardware will be used and to our knowledge that is what was sold. We are currently going through the HEMI and WEDGE inventory here at WORLD to make sure this does not happen again.
CHUCK
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: Hemi Allstate]
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08/26/10 09:18 PM
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This thread is really starting too get to me... Now I have near $20K into this Hemi, I plan on running hard, and looky...someone wanted to save $30 on some bolts, but i gotta live with the mistake.. this is bull crap.... I going to call World in the a.m. and see what the say... I think they need to send me some new bolts... 
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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08/26/10 10:14 PM
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This thread is really starting too get to me...
Now I have near $20K into this Hemi, I plan on running hard, and looky...someone wanted to save $30 on some bolts, but i gotta live with the mistake..
this is bull crap....
I going to call World in the a.m. and see what the say...
I think they need to send me some new bolts...
 That is the very least they should do. I bought my aluminum block before all the "deals" were offered. It was a lot of money for me. I never expected to get cheezy main studs, with quality ARP nuts to disquise them for what they really are.
Chuck comes here to tell us that they have taken care of their existing inventory. Well, maybe that's going to help their future sales, but what about those of us that trusted in the World Products name and spent our $ and got these mystery main studs?
Rant over.....for now!
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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08/26/10 11:05 PM
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The block end of the stud...note the difference on the end of the stud itself....you may be able to see it, but the body of the inferior stud is very " stratchy", you could feel it on your finger nail at each cut of the stud, vs the ARP, very smooth and hard. You will also notice where the shank and the threads meet, notice the rolled threads, the chamfer, and the overall apperance.
ARP on left, unknown on right.
I only have 2 sets of these here now, already spoken for, I can get more fairly quickly if anyone wants them, just PM me.
is the pic on the right the chinese ones that came in the world supposedly..
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Re: World Aluminum Block Main Studs CAUTION
[Re: moparniac]
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08/26/10 11:08 PM
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Im 99% sure these studs have no markings on the end, and they sure dont look like whats pictured.
They may be ARP.
Im pulling the pan in a week or so due to a leak, and I will inspect the studs along with the bearings as usual..
LOL the engine has a whole 15 minutes run time on it now..
[color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color]
[color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]
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