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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #779672
09/13/10 02:17 PM
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I love this thread, love hearing the TQuads doing so well.
I have loved them for so many years, little bit of time in and you get so much out.
The 71 Challenger T/A was going to be a Thermoquad,
the engineers got it so we had the best of both worlds.

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: ademon] #779673
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Thats an intelligent statment a lot of the buick guys use them in place of the QJ for more flow on the 455







Oh yeah .. the Buick guyz love 'em !!

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #779674
09/13/10 04:40 PM
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Thats an intelligent statment a lot of the buick guys use them in place of the QJ for more flow on the 455







Oh yeah .. the Buick guyz love 'em !!




that's because they don't have 6-packs for buicks...lol


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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #779675
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t-bogs were great on 440 cop cars, but for 1/4 mile its 440 six pack all the way. one reason port volume of intake/cfm flow, and throttle response of holly will spank a t-bog. for spread bore stock type single 4bbl intake t-bog is the best carb. the 1971 340s went the fastest ever with them on stock setups. but for racing or hot street car you dont see a guy putting a t-bog with adaptor on sigle plane m-1 intake....


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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: hemigod426] #779676
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So is my small block six pack opening too soon or too late?? All six are wide open at launch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxsguEwUgew

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: hemigod426] #779677
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but for racing or hot street car you dont see a guy putting a t-bog with adaptor on sigle plane m-1 intake....




I have....It ran great!


1969 Nova
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1994 F150 XLT Super Cab 2WD
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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: hemigod426] #779678
09/13/10 09:39 PM
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...but for racing or hot street car you dont see a guy putting a t-bog with adaptor on sigle plane m-1 intake....




No you don't, because the M1 is Thermoquad ready, no adapter needed! The same is true of the Street Dominator.

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: ademon] #779679
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a lot of the buick guys use them in place of the QJ for more flow on the 455




Well, I CAN say firsthand that they DO WORK on
Buick engines. Had a 70' 225 (I appologize members)with a 455 that I converted to GS specs,
put a 850? TQ (rejetted 440 version) on it and it
RAN HARD. Couldn't keep my right foot out of the tank!! Pretty good carb, but I still like my multiple carbs. No offense!!



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"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: @#$%&*!] #779680
09/14/10 02:35 AM
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...but for racing or hot street car you dont see a guy putting a t-bog with adaptor on sigle plane m-1 intake....




No you don't, because the M1 is Thermoquad ready, no adapter needed! The same is true of the Street Dominator.



Heres the Holley street dominator with my 910cfm t-quad. Also like the sound of the big secondary air doors slamming shut when i let off of WOT!!

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: ademon] #779681
09/18/10 12:39 AM
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...but for racing or hot street car you dont see a guy putting a t-bog with adaptor on sigle plane m-1 intake....




No you don't, because the M1 is Thermoquad ready, no adapter needed! The same is true of the Street Dominator.



Heres the Holley street dominator with my 910cfm t-quad. Also like the sound of the big secondary air doors slamming shut when i let off of WOT!!




Makes an EVEN BETTER sound opening up thru the gears!!





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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #779682
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Makes an EVEN BETTER sound opening up thru the gears!! Even better when the doors slap shut...Huh???

So a T quad closes between shifts?....instead of how nice they sound running, or letting off with the doors slapping shut, how about a pic with sound=vid??? vs a pic with comments???

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: quick77rt ] #779683
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Not to steal the thread from the OP, but if you guys had a choice, would you choose a stock holley with vac secondaries or a T-quad?


Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original
Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: CurYellowBird] #779684
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Ferrr yurr viewing enjoyment .....

SEE how happy this HEMI is .... with a pair of Plastic-Fantastics on it ? ....

(I was cleaning-out my desktop and found this pic)

6202529-TQsonHemi.jpg (451 downloads)
Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #779685
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Ferrr yurr viewing enjoyment .....

SEE how happy this HEMI is .... with a pair of Plastic-Fantastics on it ? ....

(I was cleaning-out my desktop and found this pic)




That's an old picture from under the hood of my wreck. Since that was taken I now have 2 140gph pumps, 1/2" fuel line all the way to the regulator, very large inline filter. The carbs will flow 900cfm+ each. The whole shoot'n match will be going on my dyno this winter for some tweaking.
It really runs nice on the street with this setup. Acceptable mileage and enough power to smoke the tires at 60-70 mph. Dave

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #779686
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Ferrr yurr viewing enjoyment .....

SEE how happy this HEMI is .... with a pair of Plastic-Fantastics on it ? ....

(I was cleaning-out my desktop and found this pic)




Oh BOY!.......TWINS!!!


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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: CurYellowBird] #779687
09/18/10 09:30 AM
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Not to steal the thread from the OP, but if you guys had a choice, would you choose a stock holley with vac secondaries or a T-quad?




stock holley? like the small vacuum units they used? Or a nice 750vacuum or bigger?

Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #779688
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I tried both a 770 street avenger and an 850 t-quad on my 318 mpg motor and the t-quad killed it in gas miledge, they both felt about the same driving them but the t-quad sounded incredible so my vote goes for t-quad.


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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #779689
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Not to steal the thread from the OP, but if you guys had a choice, would you choose a stock holley with vac secondaries or a T-quad?




stock holley? like the small vacuum units they used? Or a nice 750vacuum or bigger?




Yes I'm referring to the small vacuum units that came on most of our cars stock. I have no idea how well they work since I haven't had any experience with them.


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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: CurYellowBird] #779690
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Wow, so many different questions all mixed up into one thread!

Speaking of 440's there is zero question that the 6 pack far outperforms the factory 4bbl setup. I'm sure this has more to do with the manifold than the carbs.
Someone linked the hotrod intake articles (ironically trying to make the opposite point, I believe) which shows that the sixpack setup does quite well indeed compared to AFTERMARKET 4bbl intakes and carbs at the 450hp level.....at some point that would change but if we're talking about stock to stock it's a no-brainer.

I suspect the small block 6 pack edge is a little smaller due to a better 4bbl intake....anyway, Tom would know so I'm gonna believe him on this one.

There is a reason why A12's do so well in PS, and it sits on top of the motor.

Dave


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Re: Thermoquad vs. Six Pack/Six Barrel. Which is best ? [Re: CurYellowBird] #779691
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Not to steal the thread from the OP, but if you guys had a choice, would you choose a stock holley with vac secondaries or a T-quad?




stock holley? like the small vacuum units they used? Or a nice 750vacuum or bigger?




Yes I'm referring to the small vacuum units that came on most of our cars stock. I have no idea how well they work since I haven't had any experience with them.




I'd think the t-q could give your more performace since the holleys are about 625cfm or smaller.

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