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1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? #765835
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Hi everybody,
My 'cuda is coded for interior PRXW (white leather). I didn't know any better, but Dan (6bblgt) pointed out that he would have expected woodgrain inserts in the door panels.

My suspicion is that the interior panels have never been changed, based only on the fact that the car hasn't been restored other than some rust repair in the mid-late '70s by the previous owner, who bought it from the OO in 1974. I have lost contact with the previous owner, or I would ask him about replacement of the panels.

Has anyone ever seen a leather interior 'cuda with no woodgrain inserts in the door panels? The build date is 1-15-70.

Hmmm... curious...

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Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: cuda70_383] #765836
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This page mentions them for Gran Coupe;

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1970/70_Barracuda0023.jpg

Check the date codes on your panels if / when you ever have a need to remove them.

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #765837
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I owned a PRT5 '70 'Cuda that did not not have the inserts, my buddy owned a PRT5 '70 Gran Coupe and it did have them... Both had unmolested interiors.


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Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: cuda70_383] #765838
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Original owner of a '70 'cuda with black leather interior and it does not have woodgrain on the door panels. Only the dash and console. It has the rest of the gran coupe stuff - overhead console and formed headliner. I've never seen woodgrain inserts on a 'cuda, but that's just me.

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: FK5] #765839
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if we can expand this thread a bit ..... Kris' car also has a "seat belt" light on the dash, but has standard seat belts. Was this also part of the "leather interior"? I don't/didn't think the door panels had any date info on them?

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: 6bblgt] #765840
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Quote:

if we can expand this thread a bit ..... Kris' car also has a "seat belt" light on the dash, but has standard seat belts. Was this also part of the "leather interior"? I don't/didn't think the door panels had any date info on them?




What is the fasten seatbelt light on the dash? My car has the overhead console which has lights for low fuel, door ajar and fasten seatbelts. I don't think it has any sensor for the seatbelts (like the disconnect on my '74) but it just stayed on for a set time after the car was started.

FWIW, the car was ordered and picked up April 1970.

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Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: FK5] #765841
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Dan- neither one of the two '70 Plymouths I mentioned above had the seatbelt light in the dash, just in the overhead consolette.

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Kris' car is a FC7 383 4-spd convertible.

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: FK5] #765843
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Quote:

Original owner of a '70 'cuda with black leather interior and it does not have woodgrain on the door panels. Only the dash and console. It has the rest of the gran coupe stuff - overhead console and formed headliner. I've never seen woodgrain inserts on a 'cuda, but that's just me.




it's not a big flat panel like on the challengers, it was a thin wood trim that followed the contour of the door...hard to explain...let me see if I can google up a pic.


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Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: 70Cuda383] #765845
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The "cornfield" '71 HEMI'Cuda 11K? miles (Jan. '71 car) - has black leather & the wood grained inserts in the ('Cuda badged) door panels. Maybe it's a '70 vs. '71 thing?

Who has a late '70 'Cuda with or without WOOD? 0b100004 that Rocket Restorations restored (& there are pics in the parts book when new) doesn't have woodgrain.

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Quote:

if we can expand this thread a bit ..... Kris' car also has a "seat belt" light on the dash, but has standard seat belts. Was this also part of the "leather interior"?




I have broadcast sheets that show it (L73) with & without A01 on PRxx cars.

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #765847
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Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: cuda70_383] #765848
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My car is a PRXW white leather car. An it has the woodgrain inserts but it is a Grandcoupe.

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: bp27] #765849
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Had a BS27HOB with PRX9 interior and no woodgrain in the panels.

However, I believe that when leather was ordered in a 'Cuda or Barracuda, then one was to get the woodgrain in the door panels, and an overhead console (at least in '70).

If you ordered the salt+pepper cloth interior, you would get red inserts instead of woodgrain.

I have a few sets of 'Cuda panels (and have had more) that had either the woodgrain or the red stripe inserts. And I do mean 'Cuda, not Gran Coupe.

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: YYZ] #765850
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A board member here has a 71 Cuda SRX9 leather and no woodgrain on the panels, believed to be original to the car.
Its' history is known basically since new.
Perhaps he'll chime in...

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: 6bblgt] #765851
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Quote:

Kris' car is a FC7 383 4-spd convertible.




Well, that would explain why there's a seatbelt light on the dash... no overhead consolette.


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Quote:

The "cornfield" '71 HEMI'Cuda 11K? miles (Jan. '71 car) - has black leather & the wood grained inserts in the ('Cuda badged) door panels. Maybe it's a '70 vs. '71 thing?

Who has a late '70 'Cuda with or without WOOD? 0b100004 that Rocket Restorations restored (& there are pics in the parts book when new) doesn't have woodgrain.





The PRT5 EF8 'Cuda I mentioned above has an SPD of 6/8/70 and no woodgrain inserts.

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Since the woodgrain could not be called out as a separate option, and there are many original 'cuda door panels with woodgrain, my theory is that the woodgrain was meant to be included when leather was ordered in a Barracuda or 'Cuda - particularly for the 1970 year

Assembly lines being what they are - substitutions were made - either intentionally or by oversight...

Re: 1970 'cuda + leather interior - no woodgrain in panels? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #765854
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Quote:

Quote:

if we can expand this thread a bit ..... Kris' car also has a "seat belt" light on the dash, but has standard seat belts. Was this also part of the "leather interior"?




I have broadcast sheets that show it (L73) with & without A01 on PRxx cars.




Don't know if adds anything, but the car has A01. The fenders have been replaced, so I don't have the fender-mounted signals.

Maybe (A01 + convertible) == (reverse light on dash)

For the woodgrain inserts, I'm going to guess that it came on GranCoupe models, but maybe just got installed (by accident?!) on a few non-GranCoupe models that had leather?


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