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Your car's not correct! #759285
07/27/10 01:11 PM
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Hello everyone! First car show out with the car and I hear this! My question to you...My car, a 1970 Challenger RT, fairly early build. October, 1969. I do not have the wood grain panel on the doors, they are just all black. Should there be? I've seen cars both ways. Mine does have the ralley dash. Thanks! Jeff

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 1969RR] #759286
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No, that early did not have the woodgrain in the recess. Are there any holes for the insert?

Brad

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Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: BradD] #759287
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Hi Brad! The interior was changed before I bought the car, but I thought early build didn't have the inserts. I did buy 2 perfect inserts, but then did some research and didn't think they were to be there anyway! Thanks!! Jeff

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 1969RR] #759288
07/27/10 01:38 PM
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Hi,
Don't let it get you down. You'll hear a lot of "experts" at car shows. Some will think they have all knowledge concerning Mopar things. Take what they say with a grain of salt. Some may really know something that will help and some will be full of it. Investigate if you're not sure. Always remember; it's your car not theirs. ENJOY THE HOBBY NO MATTER WHAT.
attaboy

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: attaboy] #759289
07/27/10 01:43 PM
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Unless you've built this thing to go for GOLD, my response to that comment would be "f*** right off!"

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: Stanton] #759290
07/27/10 02:16 PM
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Yeah, don't feel bad. I hear that a lot!


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Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: closer9] #759291
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Thats a big part of the car show scene. A whole bunch of experts out there that know a whole lot about nothing. Dont let it bug u. Better yet I love how everyone used to have a Hemi in their mopar at one point just like the one thats in mine. Sure buddy!! Wink Wink.


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1968 Charger 383
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Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: Dr V] #759292
07/27/10 03:59 PM
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Quote:

Thats a big part of the car show scene. A whole bunch of experts out there that know a whole lot about nothing. Dont let it bug u. Better yet I love how everyone used to have a Hemi in their mopar at one point just like the one thats in mine. Sure buddy!! Wink Wink.




A few weeks ago, a guy and his wife came up to me at a campground and was looking at my 74 challenger that I had with us. He tells me he used to have some mopar with a 454 hemi in it. I just smiled and said that's cool. It's easier nowadays to just listen and am glad people take a interest in my old car.

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: Challenger 1] #759293
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Thanks guys! Hey Challenger1, at this same car show, different guy, told me the exact same thing "454 Hemi" I knew this one was nuts. I wasn't too sure about the wood grain insert tho. This is my first E body. Have had B bodies up until now! Mine has the cowl "black-out" also. I wasn't sure about when this was done also. Take care! Jeff

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 1969RR] #759294
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Mine has the cowl "black-out" also. I wasn't sure about when this was done also.




1970 only

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: burdar] #759295
07/27/10 05:46 PM
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can you post a pic of your 70 with the cowl black out?

i wouldnt care if it correct or not...at least your in a mopar and not in a ferd or chebby

the 454Hemi is a chebby thing

he ment to say..i had a 454 but could not afford a Hemi

there is a reason a chebby is cheap you know...


Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 1969RR] #759296
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Quote:

Hello everyone! First car show out with the car and I hear this! My question to you...My car, a 1970 Challenger RT, fairly early build. October, 1969. I do not have the wood grain panel on the doors, they are just all black. Should there be? I've seen cars both ways. Mine does have the ralley dash. Thanks! Jeff




Well, if there is one thing I have learned while building my car is YOU have to be satisfied with what you have and no one else. My car is nothing special but I constantly hear what I should have done, or what they would do or that won't work and the funny thing is that some of these so called experts don't even own an older Mopar or have never had one that guy you were talking to probably came to the show in a K car.

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: Mopar_Country] #759297
07/27/10 08:16 PM
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I am in thhe hobby for fun.I like thing to look nice and not after a 100 point show car.
I am doing a C body so nobody really knows much about them or seem to care..
People like it for what it is--not it should be or could be.That is gratification in itself.

I had a super low miles 71 Duster.I got scrutinized everytime I showed it."When you pulling out the slant six and put in a 340??"
It had 28,900 miles on it and I had to change the tires,plug wires,heater core,radiator and muffler.
I got crap for getting rid of the original parts that were NFG.
I needed a reliable car,not a "survivor"
After three years of persistent offers,I sold the car to a guy who did a V8 4 speed swap.
I had a 70 Challenger R/T 383/727.
I was changing the thermostat in the driveway when a guy pulled up with his 16 year old son and whipped out his cheque book.He was arrogant and thought he knew everything about my car.To scare him off,I fibbed that that the 383 kept overheating and may need headgaskets.
Much happier with a C body.Instead of a know-it-all tell me about my car,I am educating others who are intrigued by my car.


'68 Newport Custom Barge on a Budget!! BOAB
1973 Satellite WAGON! 318- 3 on the tree!!
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Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 68Cbarge] #759298
07/27/10 08:33 PM
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Once I had a Challenger that I had at a show. I went to get something to eat, came back and there is a guy standing over my engine bay. In his hand he has the caps from my Mopar reproduction battery. He says "you know, the vent holes in these caps are wrong, you should drill four concentric holes around the center hole to have these be more accurate." My only comment that I could come up with as my mouth hung wide open..."who are you and why are you taking my car apart?"


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Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: Kowal] #759299
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I don't go to shows. Too many experts who don't even own a car in the show. My last 69 Road Runner came with a 383 auto. I swapped it out for 440+6 4 speed. Used to have the guys all the time tell me thats not a six barrel car. My reply was allways looks like 3 carbs to me. I'm not that big on all the numbers matching stuff as long as my reg matches my vin. A cool car is a cool car. My Road Runner was fun to crack out sideways and rip the tires off. A real A12 is worth to much to really beat and have fun with. I love em but for now i'd rather have a car thats fun to drive the way it was meant to drive.

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: Kowal] #759300
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Hey Guys! My car is definitely not a 100 point show car, but I am pretty meticulous when it comes to a restoration! I've done Super Chevy winners, Good Guy winners etc, but I'm still learning when it comes to E Body correctness. I'm not sure if the guy was trying to put my car down or not. He said he just wanted to "point out that you car should have wood grain". I wasn't sure what to say! I knew I'd find out the answer on Moparts! I've sure learned alot and appreciate it! I'm going to try and post a couple of pix. So here goes! Take care! Jeff

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Here is an A12 Runner Clone I did. I always heard that it "aint a real one"! Oh well!!

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 1969RR] #759302
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Here is after restoration. Wiper motor by Jules, BTW! Jeff

Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: 1969RR] #759303
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Ignore the "self proclaimed experts", if you're happy with the car that's all that matters.

Here are some pics of the cowl blackout on T/A Challenger that hadn't been touch prior to then.
I took the pics to document the blackout on a T/A.




Link to all the pics.
http://s471.photobucket.com/albums/rr72/SNK-EYZ/T%20A%20%20Challenger%20Documentation/


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: Your car's not correct! [Re: SNK-EYZ] #759304
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I'm curious to see what these non-woodgrain doors look like. I can't recall ever seeing any! Does it have a standard or rallye dash?


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