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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Valiant_Showoff] #742882
07/08/10 04:29 PM
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Thanks Mark, do you have the Schumacher Motor Mounts also...?????

Dougs makes a nice header....happy to see they fit well....I wonder how they fit with a 4-speed z-bar....?????

What oil pan are you running...????

Rickster




This is going to sound crazy, but the motor mounts are home made. Just took the solid mounts that were on the engine when we got it off the wrecking pile and modified them to fit the cross member. The procedure went something like this:

Drank a couple beers. Bolted the mounts to the engine, lowered the engine into the bay, bolted up the transmission, and then set the engine where it "looked right". Drank another beer (or 2). Tack welded the mounts in place. Removed engine and tranny and built mounting ears to weld to the K-member for the mounts to hook to. Drank another beer and re-installed everything.

The oil pan is also home made. It's just the stock pan with the sump extended a couple inches for more capacity. Oil pick-up tube was extended to match.

It's nice having a mad-scientist/mechanic/machinist/paint & body man for a brother! Thanks 6bblFLASH.




That would have taken me at least an 18 pack to accomplish, but the again when I think about it, I could have bought 5 or 6 cases for what mine cost....

I may do the same with the oil pan, hoping to pick up a nice mig welding pkg this weekend I found on craigslist

Rickster

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742883
07/08/10 04:56 PM
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Only going to run a 27"tire and it will fit without modification....actually from my measuring a 30" tire will fit, just limited on width with the stock spring and no minitub

Rickster




I'm not sure how much different your wheel well is on your car vs. a 69 Dart, but.....

My 69 Dart with a stock width 8.75", stock wheel well and spring location could fit a 15x7" Ramcharger wheel perfectly. Some wheel companies still carry them. I got mine for $45 a piece 6-8 years ago. A dog dish hubcap will cover 3" wheel studs too

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Dart1031] #742884
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That little sucker is gonna be cool Just a suggestion, might want to consider B5 blue. I think it would come close to matching the interior and would look great.

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Dart1031] #742885
07/08/10 05:27 PM
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Only going to run a 27"tire and it will fit without modification....actually from my measuring a 30" tire will fit, just limited on width with the stock spring and no minitub

Rickster




I'm not sure how much different your wheel well is on your car vs. a 69 Dart, but.....

My 69 Dart with a stock width 8.75", stock wheel well and spring location could fit a 15x7" Ramcharger wheel perfectly. Some wheel companies still carry them. I got mine for $45 a piece 6-8 years ago. A dog dish hubcap will cover 3" wheel studs too




Adam what size tire is that on the back of your car...????? I have done a ton of measuring and can actually get a 15" x 8" rim in there with a 4.675 b/s

Rickster

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Hemiroid] #742886
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That little sucker is gonna be cool Just a suggestion, might want to consider B5 blue. I think it would come close to matching the interior and would look great.




You just might be right there Marc.....looks pretty close




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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742887
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What color paint are you thinking?




Not sure on the code yet, but the same color as the interior, I believe it's a medium or light blue metallic....need to find out, when I look at the paint chips online for 64 plymouth the light blue seems too light and the medium blue metallic seems too dark....

If you look at the color of vinyl seat trim in the above pic, it is very close to that

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Rickster, my vote goes for the paint that is on the car now. Love that old paint.

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Hot 340] #742888
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What color paint are you thinking?




Not sure on the code yet, but the same color as the interior, I believe it's a medium or light blue metallic....need to find out, when I look at the paint chips online for 64 plymouth the light blue seems too light and the medium blue metallic seems too dark....

If you look at the color of vinyl seat trim in the above pic, it is very close to that

Rickster


Rickster, my vote goes for the paint that is on the car now. Love that old paint.




OH Hell No.....you'd have to see it up close, it looks like someone tried to paint it with a fence white wash from home depot with a brush and too much patina showing through.....it's definitely getting painted...lol

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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742889
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Adam what size tire is that on the back of your car...????? I have done a ton of measuring and can actually get a 15" x 8" rim in there with a 4.675 b/s

Rickster




If you're referring to my sig pic, that's my Valiant(mini tubbed, 11.5x28 Hoosier). My 69 Dart had a 255/75 15 M/T drag radial. I don't have any pics of it with the steel rims or I'd post them.

Now that I think about it, my 8.75" had Moser axles which required B-body brakes. I think the axle was a 1/2" wider each side with the Moser's.

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Dart1031] #742890
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Adam what size tire is that on the back of your car...????? I have done a ton of measuring and can actually get a 15" x 8" rim in there with a 4.675 b/s

Rickster




If you're referring to my sig pic, that's my Valiant(mini tubbed, 11.5x28 Hoosier). My 69 Dart had a 255/75 15 M/T drag radial. I don't have any pics of it with the steel rims or I'd post them.

Now that I think about it, my 8.75" had Moser axles which required B-body brakes. I think the axle was a 1/2" wider each side with the Moser's.




I'm planning on running either the M/T P255/60/15dr's or the Diamond-Back Redline Nitto's, more than likely the M/T's their easier on the pocket

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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742891
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on my 68dart with a-body spec 8 3/4 and moser axles it does make it a 1/2" wider over all..1/4" each side

I ran weld 7x15 with 4.5 back space with a 245/60 15 in the untouched wheel wells and fender lips

fit in the center and had a 1/4" at the fender lip and a 1/4" at the spring and tire bulge

floped the a-body 8 3/4 in the 85 truck and ran the 12" rim with 4.5 bs and the 29x15x15 M/Ts

same 1/4" clearance on the spring and tire bulge and fender lip on the stepside

what has been done to the 8 3/4 in your A-body????

does it have the A-body 1 3/4" brakes or does it have the B-body large brake offset on the axles with the 10" drums and 4" wbp???

dont recall what you said rick..I know it has the long studs,IIRC you said 10" drums


Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742892
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I'm planning on running either the M/T P255/60/15dr's or the Diamond-Back Redline Nitto's, more than likely the M/T's their easier on the pocket

Rickster




OK, I meant 255/60. Not 255/75 I've run the Nitto 555's on a few cars and they work good. Mid 11's on a five year old set, lol. Haven't seen the Diamond Backs yet.

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: Dart1031] #742893
07/09/10 09:55 AM
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I went with Spitfire headers. They are shorties and a ton cheaper than TTIs, I think I paid $200 and had them coated for $75.

Spitfire Headers
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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: WadeMetzinger] #742894
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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: WadeMetzinger] #742895
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I went with Spitfire headers. They are shorties and a ton cheaper than TTIs, I think I paid $200 and had them coated for $75.

Spitfire Headers
Harold Johnson
479-650-9989
Ft Smith, Arkansas

Here are a few pics




I've heard a bunch of folks were having problems with Harold....????? When did you get yours....?????

Rickster

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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: WadeMetzinger] #742897
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The winter before last winter of 2008 - 2009. I didn't have any problems with him and I read a lot of the stuff on the internet bad mouthing him too but decided to take a chance since they looked good and were so reasonable. I think I got them in 3 weeks.

Here are a bunch more photos:

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Engine_Final_1.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Engine_Final_2.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Front.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Header_Front.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Headers_Driver.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Headers_Passenger.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/Passenger_front.JPG

http://metzinger.oxentenko.com/66_Cuda/SirCuda_Motor.JPG

I have more and close-ups of the headers and exhaust if you want them just email me and I'll send them to you, there are bigger files.

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: WadeMetzinger] #742898
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I used the Schumacher mounts and the Schumacher torque strut as well.

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742899
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I went with Spitfire headers. They are shorties and a ton cheaper than TTIs, I think I paid $200 and had them coated for $75.

Spitfire Headers
Harold Johnson
479-650-9989
Ft Smith, Arkansas

Here are a few pics




I've heard a bunch of folks were having problems with Harold....????? When did you get yours....?????

Rickster





I have a set of used Spitfires (bought in spring of '02) that I ran on mine before stepping up to the Doug's back in '06. They worked a little better than the 340 Hi-Po exhaust manifolds that I had before, but weren't enough to get me anywhere near the 11's.

One piece of advice if you go that route: weld a flange or some kind of attachment bracket to them before getting them coated and installed. I had a heck of time getting the exhaust tubes to stay attached and sealed tight. Wish I would have welded a couple nuts to the sides before Jet-Hot coating them to use as draw-down points. Oh well, live and learn...

Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: WadeMetzinger] #742900
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I used the Schumacher mounts and the Schumacher torque strut as well.




I plan on making up a strut myself, have a nice pair off the roadster we never used with heim joints and chrome

Nice looking cuda Wade That # for Harold is no longer a working #

I just passed up a set that were on fleabay that went for just under $300 uncoated....not a bad looking piece and I was impressed with the thickness of the flanges, but not too excited how the two tubes dump at a 90* angle into the collector, but for the money...okay I appreciate the help, but will go the full header route down the road, plenty of time to save up

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Re: {{{{ SMALL VALIANT UPDATE }}}} [Re: rickstershemi] #742901
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That little sucker is gonna be cool Just a suggestion, might want to consider B5 blue. I think it would come close to matching the interior and would look great.




You just might be right there Marc.....looks pretty close




Rickster




It almost looks like the sides of the seats and the doors are pretty close to b3 blue

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