i have a 68 dart that will not turn over with the key. what can be wrong with it? thanks ed

Ignition switch itself, or the connector on the switch

Firewall connector

Firewall mounted relay

If it's an automatic, could be the neutral safety switch either bad, out of adjustment, or something changed in the shifter adjustment.

Any connectors or wireing in between

I'll go get the crowbar so I can pry out of you what you've tried to do, what kind of test gear you have, and whether this thing is an automatic or a stick

i by passed the neutral safety switch and i can jump it across the the relay and it will turn over and i checked the wires on the relay and the one post is dead till i turn the key to the run position and then it has juice but the motor will not turn over? can the fuseable link do this?thanks ed

ok just checked juice after the fuseable link and it has power? thanks ed

You are saying that it is an auto, you bypass the neutral safety and it does what? cranks? no crank?

Sounds like no crank with the neutral safety bypassed?

This is sounding like the relay itself.

Disconnect the NS switch lead and ground that terminal of the relay. If the car cranks with the key, you have a NS issue

With a test light or meter, probe the key connection (the "other" push on terminal on the relay) and that lead should have power with the ign switch in the "start" position.

If you have that power, and the NS terminal to ground, and no crank, then it's a bad relay

On the relay, the large nut terminal is "battery" hot at all times.

The smaller bare screw connection feeds the starter solenoid down below in "crank"

the two push on terminals go to the relay coil, so one is grounded through the NS, and the other gets power from the ign switch in crank

the two push on terminals go to the relay coil, so one is grounded through the NS, and the other gets power from the ign switch in crank?

i only have 1 wire and it is yellow on it but i hooked a jumper wire to the other post to ground now it turns over do i have the yellow wire on the wrong post? thanks ed

Now I AM confused.

You say "I only have one wire and it is yellow"

Do you mean there is two push-on terminals, and the only wire you have is yellow?

One push on should go to yellow--the ign switch crank circuit

One push on should be brown--goes down to the NS

Other than "restore correctness" it does not matter which push-on the yellow and brown hook to

Do you mean there is two push-on terminals, and the only wire you have is yellow?
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where would the brown one come from? icant find a brown one? thanks ed

ok thanks 440sixpack for helping me through this problem it was the brown wire it came off the wire end is bad and the wire fell off and i could not find it. thanks for helping me ed