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What waste gate?? #733223
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Whats waste gate should I get? Stock 318 or slant six. Most likely the 318 First. I have a Holset H1E and an intercooler and very little piping. What else will I need. Waste gate, bov, Blow through carb What carb is recomended aswell

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #733224
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Depending on the amount of boost you might get by w/ just a POV. I ran 6psi on a S/C 440 and used a POV for a Audi turbo. As for a crab call somebody like Scott at SDCE or the guy at ExtremeAir. Both will help you get it right.


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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #733225
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38mm is fine...that should be on the flange on the kit i sold you...40-50mm is fine on the bov...you can get them cheap from vs racing on turbomustangs...just the x02 brand you dont need high dollar stuff


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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: dodge turbo] #733226
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Where exactly does the waste gate go. Just before the turbo or after? I was going to sell most of it but changed my mind. I want a turbocharged truck. Itll all be pretty mild to start with. I have an 80 St Regis copcar 318/4bbl that I plan to use.

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #733227
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Hello,

Wastegate is after the turbo. It diverts the air from the pressure side to the exhaust for overboost conditions such as limiting boost and between shifts among a couple others.

Damon

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: mopardamo] #733228
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Anyone have pics? Im still fairly new to turbos and want to get it rite when I start. Thanks

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: mopardamo] #733229
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Quote:

Hello,

Wastegate is after the turbo. It diverts the air from the pressure side to the exhaust for overboost conditions such as limiting boost and between shifts among a couple others.

Damon




The wastegate needs to go before the turbo! It diverts exhaust gas away from the turbine to prevent overboosting during engine acceleration.

I believe Damon meant to say a "blow off valve or BOV" (not a wastegate) goes in the charge pipe to limit compressor surge when closing the throttle blades as can occur during shifts.

Here's a pic of a wastegate flange location on an import engine. Same concept on your car, somewhere before the turbine side of the turbo.


Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 1badx] #733230
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Quote:

Quote:

Hello,

Wastegate is after the turbo. It diverts the air from the pressure side to the exhaust for overboost conditions such as limiting boost and between shifts among a couple others.

Damon




The wastegate needs to go before the turbo! It diverts exhaust gas away from the turbine to prevent overboosting during engine acceleration.

I believe Damon meant to say a "blow off valve or BOV" (not a wastegate) goes in the charge pipe to limit compressor surge when closing the throttle blades as can occur during shifts.

Here's a pic of a wastegate flange location on an import engine. Same concept on your car, somewhere before the turbine side of the turbo.





I was alittle confused there. I knew the bov was after the turbo. Should the BOV be close to the carb/throtle body or anywhere after the intercooler Thanks

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #733231
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The wastegate is before the turbo, and likes to be oriented in a manner that the exhaust can run right into the gate on its way to the...see the picture for explanation

The bov can go just before the carb/throttle body and is always closed and uses vacuum to open it

a lot of guys put the bov before the intercooler, others do it after, myself there is no intercooler to worry about yet

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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: joshking440] #733232
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bov pic if you needed

6057233-finishedturbo.jpg (187 downloads)
Re: What waste gate?? [Re: joshking440] #733233
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I have my BOV after the intercooler. It is there for packaging reasons. Pretty much any wastegate would work with that combo. Ebay has cheap ones.


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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: CW25] #733234
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Like CW said, buy a cheap gate for your combo, it will work just fine. Try SS Autochrome or Ebay

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 1badx] #733235
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If you have an intercooler BOV should be after it...

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: CokeBottleKid] #733236
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Why do people comment when they have no clue what they are talking about gets me for sure....

Wastegate is before the turbo and as close as you can get it to the turbo or merge area, it vents exhaust way from the turbo to get the boost you desire....BOV is before the carb or injection. i dont think it really matters if its before or after the intercooler, mine is after, close to the carb, and you should always have one. It prevents compressor surge which will damage a turbo. i have X02 wastegate (60mm)and Bov(50mm) and have less than 250 invested for both of them and they work awesome, they are HKS knockoffs and would recomment with any cheap knockoff to take it apart and clean lube it well. i got both of them from Vsracing.net a site sponsor on turbomustangs.com


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Quote:

Hello,

Wastegate is after the turbo. It diverts the air from the pressure side to the exhaust for overboost conditions such as limiting boost and between shifts among a couple others.

Damon




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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: joshking440] #733238
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I was pretty sure its before. I ment where or how close to before the turbo.

Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #733239
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Quote:

I was pretty sure its before. I ment where or how close to before the turbo.




Like dodge turbo said after the merge before the turbo. Mine is about 3" from the turbo just make sure you vent both sides of the engine not just one.


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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: dodge turbo] #733240
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38mm is fine...that should be on the flange on the kit i sold you...40-50mm is fine on the bov...you can get them cheap from vs racing on turbomustangs...just the x02 brand you dont need high dollar stuff




What Flang? The pic of it onstalled on your motor had a spacer between the manifold and the turbo with the bov but I dont believe I got that? Circled

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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #733241
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Would this work for the BOV
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Im going to checkout the tiurbo stang forum aswell

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Re: What waste gate?? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #733242
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That will work. It will also be most annoying. See the trumpets? They'll hoot and holler every time you let off the throttle.
Ricers flock to them. It's like a fart pipe muffler for the intake.
Find one without a trumpet and it'll be much easier to live with.

Factory turbo cars usually route the BOV back into the air filter to silence them.


On the wastegate, think of it as a short cut. When boost gets too high they open up and let exhaust sneak around the turbo and straight into the exhaust pipe. Again, smoother is better on the plumbing.


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