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Best Daily Driver 383 cam #727183
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Any one have a favorite cam for a 383 daily driver? The car is a 69 Road Runner, with auto and 323 posi. It will be used for crusing cross country, stop lite to stop lite low end speed. Looking for good torque at low and mid RPM.

This is what I have, stock 69 383, 9.5:1 CR, 3 angle valve job on stock heads, DP4 Eddie intake, 600 Holley, Headman Elite Headers, dual exhaust, x pipe, have stock 12 inch and 11 inch converter, auto, 323 posi.

I already have a 440 car so max power isn't as important as max torque in this case.

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727184
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I hear the Launiti Voodo 60303 is a nice cam for this type of application? I would guess a Comp XE or Hughes cam of the same duration would also work?

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727185
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Comp Cam XE262H. Perfect cam for what you want. Slightly "bigger" than the stock "Road Runner" cam, but good low end, and will wind to 5,700 RPM's with power.


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Hughes 2328 is a good one too...

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727187
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I'm happy with Comp Cam 280H PP474 in my 383 dart-same rear gears but a 4-speed. Seems to have a lot of mid range torque, along with great sound at idle.

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: TMBOOTS] #727188
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Thanks for all the responses. I tried the online computer dyno to try to get an idea on how much torque vs horsepower the cams would give (ball park). All are in a good range,all will give, according to the program, 370 to 397 hp and 440 to 480 lbs torque, but the bigger 280 cam gives about 29 hp over the smaller 262 cam, and the smaller cam gives about 40 lbs of torque over the biggest. The Hughes cam and Voodoo cam are in between.

What is better for a cruiser? gain 40 lbs torque or 27 hp? Maybe a better question is about how much torque does a 383 need to put out to push the Road Runner with ease?

Thanks
Carl


"It takes a Mopar to catch a Mopar!" 1969 Charger R/T 440 1969 Road Runner 383 1970 Cuda 440
Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727189
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I'd look at the "Mr Six Pack" cam..do a search for his member name and you'll get the details on info.


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Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727190
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with the 3.23:1 gears and stock converter you will want the torque.

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: Chris2581] #727191
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It's a great cam, I just started driving my 440 'Cuda with a Mr. Six Pack. I wonder how it would run in a 383...

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: intragration] #727192
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It's a great cam, I just started driving my 440 'Cuda with a Mr. Six Pack. I wonder how it would run in a 383...




What are your thouhts on the Mr. 6 Pack cam? Is it really much different than the stock HP cam?

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: rss] #727193
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I've never driven a stock-ish HP cammed car before, the motor was a 350HP when it was in the car previously. I will say this about the Mr. Six Pack, it seems to have a bit of an idle-thing going on, in a good way, more than I would think you'd see in a stock car. I haven't driven it enough yet to have a complete grasp on it's characteristics. Seems like a good deal for the price though.

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: intragration] #727194
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it seems to have a bit of an idle-thing going on, in a good way, more than I would think you'd see in a stock car.





Not sure I'm following you.

Most stuff I've read regarding the Mr. 6 Pack cam is that it has a super smooth idle. Some have described it as idling like a 6-cylinder or 318 stocker.

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: rss] #727195
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Is there a web site to order a Mr Six Pack cam?

Thanks
Carl


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Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727196
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Is there a web site to order a Mr Six Pack cam?





I don't believe so. I think you need to call him up.

http://sixpacksuperbee.homestead.com/MRSIXPACK.html



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Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: rss] #727197
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I have stock quiet mufflers right now, and there's no mistaking my motor for a 318. It's not wild and crazy, but there's definitely something going on there. I'll know more once I get the new exhaust on.

Here's his info, I don't represent him or have any affiliation with him, just a very satisfied customer. I just called him up and ordered with a credit card. He even spent time talking to my engine shop during the build process, giving recommendations and advice:

Mr. Six Pack
Bob Karakashian
(248) 477-7776
mr6pk@hotmail.com

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: intragration] #727198
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I have stock quiet mufflers right now, and there's no mistaking my motor for a 318. It's not wild and crazy, but there's definitely something going on there. I'll know more once I get the new exhaust on.





Thanks for the info. I'm going to give him a call to see if he thinks his cam will work well for my 383 build.

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: rss] #727199
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I have stock quiet mufflers right now, and there's no mistaking my motor for a 318. It's not wild and crazy, but there's definitely something going on there. I'll know more once I get the new exhaust on.





Thanks for the info. I'm going to give him a call to see if he thinks his cam will work well for my 383 build.




Bob is a great guy. After talking with him on the phone I bought his cam two years ago for my street 383 build. It's not done yet so I can't say how well it runs in in a 383. He did tell me his cam is in many 383 engines. BTW, Bob does not grind his own cams, he has Ingle Cams grind it for him using his top secret specs.

Read more:

Bob Karakashian - Part 1

Bob Karakashian - Part 2


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I bought his cam two years ago for my street 383 build. It's not done yet so I can't say how well it runs in in a 383.




C'mon, get that thing buttoned up so you can let me know how she runs.

Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727201
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Quote:

Thanks for all the responses. I tried the online computer dyno to try to get an idea on how much torque vs horsepower the cams would give (ball park). All are in a good range,all will give, according to the program, 370 to 397 hp and 440 to 480 lbs torque, but the bigger 280 cam gives about 29 hp over the smaller 262 cam, and the smaller cam gives about 40 lbs of torque over the biggest. The Hughes cam and Voodoo cam are in between.

What is better for a cruiser? gain 40 lbs torque or 27 hp? Maybe a better question is about how much torque does a 383 need to put out to push the Road Runner with ease?

Thanks
Carl




torque. where is the 27HP advantage? probably over 5000 RPM. how often do you buzz your motor up there? where is the 40 lb-ft advantage? probably in the 3000-3500 RPM range, where you're at a lot more. the midrange torque advantage also translates to a midrange HP advantage. I'd use a comp XE262 or voodoo 60302 if looking at an off the shelf grind.


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Re: Best Daily Driver 383 cam [Re: 69rrgrabber] #727202
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Quote:

Thanks for all the responses. I tried the online computer dyno to try to get an idea on how much torque vs horsepower the cams would give (ball park). All are in a good range,all will give, according to the program, 370 to 397 hp and 440 to 480 lbs torque, but the bigger 280 cam gives about 29 hp over the smaller 262 cam, and the smaller cam gives about 40 lbs of torque over the biggest. The Hughes cam and Voodoo cam are in between.

What is better for a cruiser? gain 40 lbs torque or 27 hp? Maybe a better question is about how much torque does a 383 need to put out to push the Road Runner with ease?

Thanks
Carl


Hands down, gaining the
40 ftlbs of torque! You need it for "powering thru
the gears", passing, or just plain hi-speed cruising (60+ mph or higher) on the highway!!
But idle content is important too, so is quiet
operation till you put foot in it!! I have to
agree with some of the other members on the cam
from Mr. Six Pack. Not that I am posting a plug
for him, it just makes sense!! Especially with the
3.23's!!! All I can say is do more research on his
camshafts.



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