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Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? #71807
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I just installed a new set of Champion rj12yc spark plugs which I have been using for years and THREE are fouled out.Is there a better plug for a hot 383?Here's the combo:
.030 12.5-1 trw dome(heavy slugs)
free floating pins
zero deck block
906 78cc heads(bowl blended)
6-barrel setup(promax base plates)
509,soon to be racer brown sth-42 cam
msd ign.
4-speed
4.10-1 gear

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: jcastle1] #71808
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yes, them champions are junk, my truck wasnt getting any fire at all with them and its a bone stock 400. i switched to bosch platinums and it runs like a champ now.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: 72d100] #71809
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There are a sea of spark plugs out there and I don't know the differences,I just want a good plug to run in my combo.There are platinum tipped,double platinum tipped,v-power,irridium,non-resistor,resistor,and Jegs carries the plugs without a j-strap,whatever that means!
Someone please enlighten me!Thanks,John

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: jcastle1] #71810
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I've always run # 85 Autolites in all my big blocks. They work great.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: jcastle1] #71811
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My favorate is the NGK V-Power, and they are fairly inexpensive too.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: 451Mopar] #71812
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Champions in the new Mopars and Autolites in the old.Ive never seen a Bosch plug run good in anything yet.Ive changed thousands at work because they are crap and cars run bad with them.If you got a car to run good with them go buy a lottery ticket.Rocky


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Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: therocks] #71813
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Autolite and NGK, the platnums work great


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Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: jcastle1] #71814
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This may not be any help but I have found the Champions to work well in stock small blocks and Autolites to work well in stock big blocks. Being a non-stock six-pack may require something different.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: GTX70sixpack] #71815
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what the scoop on E plugs?

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: BigTerry] #71816
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Yep Champions are junk, thats why they were the OE plug when these cars were new. I think your problem is running a resistor plug in that motor in the first place. Find a non-resistor plug in the heat range you want and try that. I run old NOS J11Y Champions and have never had a problem. But you pick any manufacture you want and find out for yourself which one you like because anytime somebody asks about spark plugs on here you get a different answer. Its about like asking which beer is the best.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: BigTerry] #71817
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i use the rj12yc's in the 440, it runs fine. my 5/8" 440 plug is the bosch HR8BPX . i remove the tapper on a lathe.

the autolite 9323's, in the 318 with great results and a 5/8" plug.

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Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: mopowergtx] #71818
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champion has not made j11y's, superseeded by RJ12YC

all have resistors now.


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Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: mark7171] #71819
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Standard Autolite copper in my 340 and it runs strong.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: mark7171] #71820
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champion has not made j11y's, superseeded by RJ12YC

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um.. wrong. you can still get non-resistor champions all-day-long.

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where?

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: mark7171] #71822
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Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? #71823
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no wonder autozone doesnt have them.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: mopowergtx] #71824
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Yep Champions are junk, thats why they were the OE plug when these cars were new. I think your problem is running a resistor plug in that motor in the first place. Find a non-resistor plug in the heat range you want and try that. I run old NOS J11Y Champions and have never had a problem. But you pick any manufacture you want and find out for yourself which one you like because anytime somebody asks about spark plugs on here you get a different answer. Its about like asking which beer is the best.




the champions that were installed in the 60's/70's are a much better plug than the new champions , never had good luck running that rj12 in anything either .

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: JohnRR] #71825
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Yep Champions are junk, thats why they were the OE plug when these cars were new. I think your problem is running a resistor plug in that motor in the first place. Find a non-resistor plug in the heat range you want and try that. I run old NOS J11Y Champions and have never had a problem. But you pick any manufacture you want and find out for yourself which one you like because anytime somebody asks about spark plugs on here you get a different answer. Its about like asking which beer is the best.




the champions that were installed in the 60's/70's are a much better plug than the new champions , never had good luck running that rj12 in anything either .




Probably right John, but I still got 4 sets of the vintage NOS J11Y's left.

But I still have never seen anybody have any real luck running a resistor plug on a beefed up mill running alot squeeze and a hot ignition. Seems like whatever brand they run the stupid resistors burn out of them with quick.

Re: Are Champion RJ12YC's junk ? [Re: jcastle1] #71826
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