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Firm Feel power steering gear #717925 06/06/10 09:20 PM 06/06/10 09:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 903 Oregon R rtplumcrazy1 OP super stock
rtplumcrazy1 OP super stock R Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 903 Oregon	my 70 Challenger RT 440 has manual steering on it now. I am considering sending an oringinal power steering gear to firm feel for rebuild and then installing power steering on my Challenger. Have any of you had a gear rebuilt by Firm Feel, and how did you like it? Put a big block 4 speed Scat Pack Dodge in your garage.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #717926 06/06/10 09:51 PM 06/06/10 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,374 Houston,Tx. L Lee446 pro stock
Lee446 pro stock L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,374 Houston,Tx.	Based on feedback from here, I called them to order a stage 3 box. I foolishly let them convince me that a stage 2 would give me the road feel like a friends 06 GTO. NOT. I can't tell the difference between it and stock, still one finger grandma friendly steering. If I used them again, it would be for the stage 3 ONLY! My .02

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: Lee446] #717927 06/06/10 10:33 PM 06/06/10 10:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,025 Bucks County, PA 5 500Stroker
500Stroker 5 Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,025 Bucks County, PA	I love my stage 3. Only way to go.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: 500Stroker] #717928 06/06/10 10:39 PM 06/06/10 10:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies	Quote: I love my stage 3. Only way to go. It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #717929 06/06/10 11:25 PM 06/06/10 11:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon	Almost everyone says go with the Stage 3 but I'm sure there are a few people out there who prefer lighter steering. Oh and anytime there is a FFI thread there is one guy who shows and complains about getting a box years ago that leaked. It happened a long time ago and he is still mad about it so I'm sure he'll find this thread and tell us the story again.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: AndyF] #717930 06/07/10 01:02 AM 06/07/10 01:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 117 southern California 1 1970sixpak member
1970sixpak member 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 117 southern California	Stage 3 is only way to go. it is not hard to steer even with wide front tires. Firm Feel seems to want to talk you into a stage 2 for some reason. Maybe they are easier for them? Only complaint I have is that it leaked and I had to sent it back. 1970 challenger T/A 4sp. Go mango http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2052639870046004729EwHOJY

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: 1970sixpak] #717931 06/07/10 07:15 AM 06/07/10 07:15 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	Quote: Stage 3 is only way to go. it is not hard to steer even with wide front tires. Firm Feel seems to want to talk you into a stage 2 for some reason. Maybe they are easier for them? Only complaint I have is that it leaked and I had to sent it back. No, that's not it. I recently contacted them and expressed my discontent with my Stage 2 box and they gladly took it back years after the purchase and swapped it to a stage 3 for a small fee (the box was out of the car for an unrelated reason anyway). I talked to Dick at length about this issue and I believe he was being very sincere when he told me they have absolutely no vested interest in a Stage 2 over a Stage 3 - same amount of work, same cost, they build to order so there are no stocked shelves of Stage 2 boxes. He said he tends to be conservative because people are all over the place regarding what they think is "firm". Stage 3 is as firm as they offer. I can sympathize. Those guys are stand up dudes. BTW, they now offer a machining service to ensure that certain boxes with certain design flaws will not leak. I can't remember how to relay the specifics to you since it didn't apply to my box, but the cost is $45 and it has to be worthwhile.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #717932 06/07/10 09:15 AM 06/07/10 09:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 73 ogletownpa 3 383'D member
383'D member 3 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 73 ogletownpa	I've just received my stage III . I haven,t installed it yet however keep in mind it took mine 2 months. They were very good in keeping me abreast of the situation.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: 383'D] #717933 06/07/10 12:26 PM 06/07/10 12:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,371 Costa Mesa, CA C chache876 pro stock
chache876 pro stock C Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,371 Costa Mesa, CA	kind of a funny story...I was very interested in upgrading to a stage 2 firm feel box as I thought my steering was pretty sloppy... Turns out I already had a stage 2 firm feel box installed my dad had put it in

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #717934 06/07/10 12:48 PM 06/07/10 12:48 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 134 Anchorage,AK A AK_JH27 member
AK_JH27 member A Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 134 Anchorage,AK	how hard is it to rebuild these units yourself? i see that you can buy a kit for them

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: AK_JH27] #717935 06/07/10 01:43 PM 06/07/10 01:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 73 ogletownpa 3 383'D member
383'D member 3 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 73 ogletownpa	I searched into answers on doing it yourself and was left with the feeling that I might not have good or proper results at the attempt.So opted for upgraded perfomance along with no sloppyness. My barracuda became very scary at 65mph.After a 6 year resto that was the only thing not replaced and I had plenty of slop.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: AK_JH27] #717936 06/07/10 01:51 PM 06/07/10 01:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies	Quote: how hard is it to rebuild these units yourself? i see that you can buy a kit for them i actually bought the rebuild gasket kit cause i was sure I could do it- until i looked at the service manual and said fuggetaboutit It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: aarcuda] #717937 06/07/10 03:38 PM 06/07/10 03:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 550 ne B broncobra mopar
broncobra mopar B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 550 ne	A few years ago I bought a rebiuld kit. Looked at the service manual, looked at the kit. Decided my life wasn't worth putting in jeopardy for it. Manual steering - no problem. Power steering - problem.

Re: Firm Feel power steering gear [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #717938 06/09/10 04:29 PM 06/09/10 04:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 199 douglasville,ga R ramrod member
ramrod member R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 199 douglasville,ga	I went with the stage II and it is great, but my next one will be a stage III. I've read here on Moparts that Firm Feel can go even more firm than stage III if you call and request it. "That Plymouth had a Hemi with a Torqueflite." -Driver

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