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Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? #697801
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If you were going to replace the stock carbs on a 69 426 street hemi, what would you use.

Stock engine with elect igntion and firewires.

Just using for pleasure driving so reliability and close to stock look is what is most important to me.

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Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697802
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Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697803
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Give me a call. There are some things you have to think about when switching to edelbrocks. I have done about 150 set so far. 586 726 6900 Jake


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Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: hemigod426] #697804
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Many years ago I used a pair of Carter Comp Series 625s. Had to fab some linkage and fuel lines and a new air filter base. Ran good when it was all done.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: bobby66] #697805
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Or you can buy a set of the Hemi "clone" carbs that I sell. They utilize original small opening tops, a modern Edelbrock carb base (CFM size of your choice, bodies finished to look like originals, not shiney like new Edlebrocks) reproduction correct Street Hemi side linkage, and any style choke, automatic OEM, Manual OEM, or Electric.

All carbs are shipped complete after being test run on a mule engine after having a thorough restoration overall with correct finishes and plating throughout so that they look as good as new and run even better.

All original/stock Street Hemi air cleaners, fuel lines, progressive linkage, brackets, etc. work on them, and all modern Edelebrock tune up parts, jets, rods, etc. work in them so tuning is easy.

See my website for pricing, or feel free to give me a call if you have any questions.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697806
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Scott , have you had any customer complaints from any clones you sold based of Ebrock 750cfm carbs ? It's been well documented that these carbs run like crap as sold by Ebrock , what are you doing to correct them ?

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: JohnRR] #697807
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Most customers do not choose 750's,(since 600's work super on even moderately pumped up street engines) the few sets I've done using 750's (mostly on big cammed/compression or big stroker race engines) have had no reported problems. That being said I leave no stone unturned when I build these carbs, I do a 100% tear down whether new or used and process them as I would any other carb I restore, this even includes throttle shaft bushings. If they did have a problem to begin with I likely eliminated them in my normal process. This is the last set of 750's I did (this month).

I believe EB had a bad run of carbs recently (not sure what parts were bad), but based on the numbers I've seen for sale at several shows recently as "factory remanufactured" it must have been a pretty big issue, and it didn't just include 750's. I think EB reccognized and tried to take back as many as possible and repair or replace them to put the problem behind them. Most of the cores I use have been in my inventory for several years now, I'm guessing they are "pre-problem" examples.


Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697808
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If you use the new Edels. your original air cleaner base won't work.

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They worked just fine on my street hemi.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: bobby66] #697810
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anyone else? Thanks for the replies!


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Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697811
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Go with the eddy 600's. I know several members are running those carbs on their dual quad 440's.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #697812
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There are 2 basic reasons why out of the box Edelbrocks won't work as direct replacements for an original 426 Street hemi using the other original Street Hemi intake assosiated parts (Air Cleaners, Side Linkage, etc.).

To make original air cleaners work you need the smaller diameter/vintage carb tops, all modern Edelbrocks have the large diameter tops and will not work with vintage air cleaner bases.

To allow the use of all factory progressive linkage parts, throttle cable brackets, return spring set ups, etc. without adding modified or custom made parts you'll need to remove the stock Edelbrock side linkage arms (they are welded on) and replace them with reproduction Street Hemi throttle arms (also welded on). That's just the basics, there's more time and money involved in performing all of this than one might imagine.

While OTB Edelbrocks will bolt on and work on a stock street Hemi intake, it's the small stuff that comes back to haunt you. To accomodate the larger top openings you'd need a custom air cleaner (some steel versions are big bucks) and you'll need at least some mods to the stock progressive linkage setup, etc. Add the price of new Edelbrocks to the cost of the special side linkage and air cleaner required (not all styles are available BTW) and you'll soon find that it's pretty expensive, and when you are done it's still not as stock appearing as simply adding some converted "clone carbs" allowing you to use 100% of the factory air cleaner and other componants.



Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697813
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I bet hybrid fiberglass solutions(moparts member PAINT IT BLACK) could hook you up with a fiberglass base made for your needs or a generic one you can mod to fit. You could then use an edelbrock progressive linkage kit. It won't look stock under close inspection, but seeing as it's all hidden under the air cleaner anyway nobody will know.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #697814
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I bet hybrid fiberglass solutions(moparts member PAINT IT BLACK) could hook you up with a fiberglass base made for your needs or a generic one you can mod to fit.




Yep! If you want to go fiberglass and the other mods mentioned you/he could certainly do that. Just depends on what each persons expectations are, and regardless of that choice, don't forget, if you don't already own a set, a new pair of Edelbrocks aren't free, do your shopping before you decide which way to go, the total investment difference (starting from scratch) is smaller than you might imagine.


Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697815
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Scott , your marketing skills are not working for at least one member ...


Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: JohnRR] #697816
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Hey it is what it is John, what has not been posted is that unfortunately (at least one member whom has contacted me after seeing my posts here) has already purchased some rather expensive new Edelebrocks which now leaves mine as a costly alternative, I can easily understand why he wouldn't want to spend similar money twice.

My posts were mainly directed at others who haven't gotten in quite so deep yet. As you know, there's allot of other componants to consider other than just the bare carbs.

The other consideration that has not been mentioned is future value. Original or reproduction parts (air cleaners, linkage, and other assosiated parts as well as clone style carbs) will bring more money than a set of Edelbrocks and custom parts will if resold seperately, or in the overall value of the car they are on if sold down the road, maybe not a popular area of discussion but it's something many do consider important.


Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697817
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You're right scott, it all depends on what a guy's going for. If it were me, I would be more likely to pick up two used eddy 600's, rebuild them and do the fiberglass base. For me it would look 'close enough' to stock and I could throw all the stock parts into a box on the shelf. But if you're pickier about originality and want a lower effort alternative I think what you're offering is great.

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The other consideration that has not been mentioned is future value.





I can't believe it took you this long to mention VALUE ....





Scott , you do great work , I'm just ribbing you some ... reason I asked is I have a set of Hemi clone carbs that are 750's and I don't know if they are ebrocks or not , I hope NOT ...

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The other consideration that has not been mentioned is future value.





I can't believe it took you this long to mention VALUE ....





Scott , you do great work , I'm just ribbing you some ... reason I asked is I have a set of Hemi clone carbs that are 750's and I don't know if they are ebrocks or not , I hope NOT ...




Are you thinking they are the original 1967 750 cfm "cheater carbs?"

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The other consideration that has not been mentioned is future value.





I can't believe it took you this long to mention VALUE ....





Scott , you do great work , I'm just ribbing you some ... reason I asked is I have a set of Hemi clone carbs that are 750's and I don't know if they are ebrocks or not , I hope NOT ...




Are you thinking they are the original 1967 750 cfm "cheater carbs?"




No Darryl , they are CLONE carbs .

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